DLV101@PSUVM.BITNET (08/30/89)
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I am looking for a Graphical User Interface that will allow me to have multiple
concurrent DOS sessions, each running in its own window. My intent is to run
a PC version of TeX. I would like to be able to simultaneously view my .DVI
file and the .TEX file being edited. In addition, I'd like to be able to
edit or preview a file while another is being processed by TeX in the
background. I'd also like to have CED resident: a utility that spools your
keyboard commands, and allows you to recall and edit them with the uparrow and
downarrow - much like VAX/VMS. Is there a GUI that operates under DOS or
otherwise that will allow this? Will OS/2 permit it? I believe TeX will
"behave" nicely when run in a window, however, it requires 640K. Will
Windows/386 permit me to do this if I've got the memory? Thanks in advance.
-Dwainea563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) (08/31/89)
> ODX writes: > major programs on that system running (including Ventura Publisher, which is > designed for Windows). Now to be fair, there was some odd hardware in this Last time I checked, Ventura Publisher ran under GEM, NOT Windows. PageMaker runs under Windows. Dave Kirsch -- a563@mindlink.UUCP
ODX@PSUVM.BITNET (Tim Larson) (08/31/89)
In article <89241.171717DLV101@PSUVM>, <DLV101@PSUVM.BITNET> says: > >========================================================================= > >I am looking for a Graphical User Interface that will allow me to have multiple >concurrent DOS sessions, each running in its own window. My intent is to run >a PC version of TeX. I would like to be able to simultaneously view my .DVI >file and the .TEX file being edited. In addition, I'd like to be able to >edit or preview a file while another is being processed by TeX in the >background. I'd also like to have CED resident: a utility that spools your >keyboard commands, and allows you to recall and edit them with the uparrow and >downarrow - much like VAX/VMS. Is there a GUI that operates under DOS or >otherwise that will allow this? Will OS/2 permit it? I believe TeX will >"behave" nicely when run in a window, however, it requires 640K. Will >Windows/386 permit me to do this if I've got the memory? Thanks in advance. > > > -Dwaine > I use DESQview to do just what you describe. I looked at DESQview and Windows/386 and decided against Windows/386 for two reasons. One was that I *only* have 2 megabytes in my system and that is Windows/386s MINIMUM! The other was that I set up Windows/286 (or whatever that version is called) for someone else and it took two 8-hour days of frustration to simply get the major programs on that system running (including Ventura Publisher, which is designed for Windows). Now to be fair, there was some odd hardware in this system and we were pushing it to its limit, but I thought setup could have been easier. When Windows was running, it did the job, however, and if you have the memory for it, it is a viable alternative and might provide an upgrade path to Presentation Mangager, (whenever that becomes available). Returning to DESQview, however, I currently run WordStar and PCTeX in 2 Meg with several device drivers loaded, history (a command line buffer and editor like CED), and a mouse driver, and I can still manage to squeeze in another small program. Furthermore, DESQview was relatively easy to install (about 2-3 hours to get the setup above running) and they provided at least one extra utility that made this possible, a program to load TSRs in the upper 384Kb of the first Meg of DOS memory. DESQview is not a GUI, just a multitasking executive, but it will run nearly all programs flawlessly (I have only seen it fail on some games). Hope this helps. -Tim odx@psuvm.bitnet BTW: I was able to push the window that holds PCTeX down to about 512Kb.
ODX@PSUVM.BITNET (Tim Larson) (09/01/89)
In article <463@mindlink.UUCP>, a563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) says: > >> ODX writes: >> major programs on that system running (including Ventura Publisher, which is >> designed for Windows). Now to be fair, there was some odd hardware in this > > >Last time I checked, Ventura Publisher ran under GEM, NOT Windows. PageMaker >runs under Windows. > >Dave Kirsch -- a563@mindlink.UUCP I am so embarrassed ... you are correct. However, I did install both Ventura and Pagemaker at that time (crazy, huh? :-). I guess my point (probably overstated) was that DESQview was easier for me to install than Windows, and DESQview was enough for me. I should also say that on the system in question Windows *was* the appropriate choice--it's important to analyze exactly what your needs are. Thanks. -Tim Larson odx@psuvm.bitnet