paul_gauthier@brains.UUCP (Paul Gauthier) (08/30/89)
Anon-UUCP server for cbip:
Any chance you'll be able to set up a mail-server as well? I'm out in UUCP
land and can't use FTP or the like to get files. Calling LD to an anon-UUCP
server is an option, but an expensive one. A mail-server (like the one that
serves the Simtel-20 libraries) would be great for the cbip archives.
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-===------===-heiby@falkor.UUCP (Ron Heiby) (09/06/89)
paul_gauthier%brains@iisat.UUCP writes: > Any chance you'll be able to set up a mail-server as well? I'm out in UUCP > land and can't use FTP or the like to get files. Calling LD to an anon-UUCP > server is an option, but an expensive one. A mail-server (like the one that > serves the Simtel-20 libraries) would be great for the cbip archives. NO NO NO NO NO!!! Setting up an anonymous UUCP site is *exactly* the correct way to do it. Some people may think that it is more expensive than a "mail-server", but they are VERY MUCH MISTAKEN. With an anonymous UUCP setup, the person who wants the stuff gets to pay for the call. There seems to be something basically *right* about this, to me. The person making the call also gets to decide whether to place the call when phone rates are expensive or cheap and which long distance company will give him/her the best KBytes/$. With a "mail-server", everybody along the uucp path between the person who wants the goodies and the server gets to pay for the calls to transport the stuff. Some sites will pay twice (once to bring it in and once to send it out again). Some of those links are set up for automatic forwarding of mail and allow the forwarding of mail during "prime time" (high phone $$). There seems to be something basically *wrong* about this, to me. Maybe there are five "hops" between you and the "mail-server". That means that (up to) five different sites must pay to send the software five times. Even if all five were "local" calls, I'm pretty sure I can call from Chicago to Los Angeles (night/weekend) for less than it would cost me to call into downtown Chicago five times. Not only are the costs of an anonymous UUCP server allocated "fairly", but the total cost can be much lower. Besides, why should my company have to pay the phone bills for you to get software that we've already paid to send around once before and you just missed? A pox on "mail-servers"! -- Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com Moderator: comp.newprod "Life is indeed an inexplicable sequence of imponderable surprises."
art@felix.UUCP (Art Dederick) (09/07/89)
In article <187@falkor.UUCP> heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby) writes: >NO NO NO NO NO!!! Setting up an anonymous UUCP site is *exactly* the >correct way to do it. I couldn't agree more with with Ron. If it ever came to a vote to abolish mail-servers vs. adding anon-uucp sites, I would vote for the anon-uucp sites. Could we get a ruling/opinion/directive from RD? Art D. felix!art