LC.YRS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Richard Stanton) (02/06/90)
I am trying 4DOS 2.21, which seems excellent except for a few strange features. Firstly, if I have a few commands in my AUTOEXEC.BAT file of the form ... > nul:, eventually I run out of file control blocks. Using a utility from SIMTEL, I found that in most cases, an entry is created under the name NUL: for each occurrence, but not released. Using COMMAND.COM instead, I do not get the same congestion. No entries appear under the name NUL:. Does 4DOS forget to clear these blocks, or is there some advantage to this? Secondly, I have noticed that occasionally my directories get a little corrupted. I just performed the following commands: move cm.doc sent/cm0205.doc move gg.doc sent/gg0205.doc The commands were acknowledged, and the files were moved, but the names in the SENT directory were cm0.doc and gg0.doc. I have also had this sort of name truncation occur on other occasions. Finally, and less importantly, I have set the directory format to mimic the normal DIR format. Usually this works, but occasionally I get entries of the form name.ext appearing in the middle of a directory, where all the other names are in the form NAME EXT. Has anyone else noticed these oddities, and are they something I should worry about? Apart from this, the program seems to be absolutely wonderful, offering all the features I have countless TSRS for in a single package. Richard Stanton
ajr@inesc.UUCP (Julio Raposo) (02/07/90)
In article <7874@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, LC.YRS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Richard Stanton) writes: > Secondly, I have noticed that occasionally my directories get a > little corrupted. I just performed the following commands: > > move cm.doc sent/cm0205.doc > move gg.doc sent/gg0205.doc > > The commands were acknowledged, and the files were moved, but the > names in the SENT directory were cm0.doc and gg0.doc. I have also > had this sort of name truncation occur on other occasions. > Just thinking: Doesn't it look like DOS4 is truncating the pathname to 8 characters? It looks that if the new path were sentinel/gg0205.doc you would end up with a file called .doc ... Antonio Julio Raposo (ajr@willy.inesc.pt - LISBOA - PORTUGAL)
toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (02/07/90)
In article <7874@lindy.Stanford.EDU> LC.YRS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Richard Stanton) writes: >I am trying 4DOS 2.21, which seems excellent except for a few >strange features. [...] >Secondly, I have noticed that occasionally my directories get a >little corrupted. I just performed the following commands: >move cm.doc sent/cm0205.doc >move gg.doc sent/gg0205.doc Perhaps the problem is you used "/" rather than "\" and 4dos somewhere has "\" hardcoded as the separator. Just a guess. Tom Almy toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com Standard Disclaimers Apply
austin@bucsf.bu.edu (Austin H. Ziegler, III) (02/07/90)
Distribution: FCC: ~/News/.article-box > In article <7874@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, LC.YRS@forsythe.stanford.edu > (Richard Stanton) writes: > Secondly, I have noticed that occasionally my directories get a > little corrupted. I just performed the following commands: > > move cm.doc sent/cm0205.doc > move gg.doc sent/gg0205.doc > > The commands were acknowledged, and the files were moved, but the > names in the SENT directory were cm0.doc and gg0.doc. I have also > had this sort of name truncation occur on other occasions. > I think that it may be the fact that you are using the forward slash. 4DOS allows the forward slash in many cases, but it still recognizes the forward slash as a switch character, so move may be interpreting the slash improperly. I'd stick with the backslash until the authors can fix this problem (but that could cause incompatibilities with existing software...). I have a slight problem with my AUTOEXEC.BAT file and 4DOS. It is not anything drastic, but for some reason, 4DOS reports: Unknown command "". I can only get that result from my AUTOEXEC.BAT. Comments? just my two bytes, austin -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The surgeon general of the United States of America has determined that | | reading USENET turns your brain to jelly, leaving nothing to claim or to | | disclaim. +--------------------------------------------------------------+ +-----------+ Austin Ziegler austin@bucsf.bu.edu or austin@buengf.bu.edu | | 700 Commonwealth Box 2094, Boston, Massachusetts 02215 BUENG '93 | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
richard@calvin.spp.cornell.edu (Richard Brittain) (02/07/90)
In article <224@inesc.UUCP> ajr@inesc.UUCP (Julio Raposo) writes: >In article <7874@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, LC.YRS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Richard Stanton) writes: >> move cm.doc sent/cm0205.doc >> move gg.doc sent/gg0205.doc >> >> The commands were acknowledged, and the files were moved, but the >> names in the SENT directory were cm0.doc and gg0.doc. I have also >> had this sort of name truncation occur on other occasions. >> > Just thinking: > Doesn't it look like DOS4 is truncating the pathname to 8 characters? > It looks that if the new path were sentinel/gg0205.doc you would > end up with a file called .doc ... It seems to me that 4DOS is not very friendly about allowing "/" as a path separator (it is my only real gripe about it). All the 4DOS commands have "/" hardwired as the option switch, and since MOVE has a possible option, I would guess that is the source of the problem. Commands which take no options, like CD, are fine with "/" as a directory separator. It seems to me that 4DOS could quite easily allow a different option switch for all it's internal commands, completely independant of the DOS partially-documented and partially-supported switchar. Richard Brittain, School of Elect. Eng., Upson Hall Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853 ARPA: richard@calvin.spp.cornell.edu UUCP: {uunet,uw-beaver,rochester,cmcl2}!cornell!calvin!richard
fer@phyllis.math.binghamton.edu (fernando guzman) (02/08/90)
I have also had some problems with 4dos. When running Kermit under 4dos, the kermit command "dir" is not properly received by 4dos as a secondary shell. Instead of getting the directory listing, and returning to kermit, I end up in 4dos (as secondary shell) and an error message of the form "-c command not found". This problem does not occur when I run kermit under command.com. Is this a bug? or am I missing something? Fernando P.S.: Except for this problem, 4dos looks great!
toma@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (02/10/90)
In article <2942@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> fer@phyllis.math.binghamton.edu (fernando guzman) writes: >I have also had some problems with 4dos. >When running Kermit under 4dos, the kermit command "dir" is not properly >received by 4dos as a secondary shell. [...] I end up in 4dos (as secondary >shell) and an error message of the form "-c command not found". This is what I believe is happening. You have set your switch character to "-". Kermit, using the COMSPEC environment variable and the switch character composes the command (which it execs) "4dos -c dir". But 4dos doesn't recognize alternate switch characters (after all, it was never part of DOS officially), so it sees "-c" as the name of a program to run, and gives the error message. Change your switch character back to "/" and all will be well. >This problem does not occur >when I run kermit under command.com. Because command.com (at least some versions) will recognize alternate switch characters. >Is this a bug? or am I missing something? It's not a bug, it's a feature! Tom Almy toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com Standard Disclaimers Apply
grano@cs.Helsinki.FI (Kari Gran|) (02/10/90)
I am using MSKERMIT 3.00 with 4DOS 2.21 and have experienced no problems with KERMITs 'dir'-command. Maybe it's a configuration problem? One problem I have encountered, though, is the command sequence EXCEPT (*.*) DEL /P which hangs my machine (AT). Don't tell me it's a silly way to do it; I was just experimenting with the EXCEPT prefix :-). Has anyone encountered this? Otherwise it's really promising product.. something that the guys at Microsoft should've done a long, long time ago. Kari. -- Kari Grano grano@cs.helsinki.fi Hey, my opinions are just mine.. "I've got a thousand telephones that don't ring" - R.Z.
person@plains.UUCP (Brett G. Person) (02/11/90)
I've had some problems with 4dos letting the cursor run wild. It will send the curor cruising down across the screen and will merely echo the breaks I send. This doesn't happen often, however. Anyone else have this problem? -- Brett G. Person North Dakota State University uunet!ndsuvax!person | person@ndsuvax.bitnet | person@plains.nodak.edu