jack.lupic@canremote.uucp (JACK LUPIC) (06/28/90)
P Message entered 1990 06 26 18:56 P
larry@uts.amdahl.com (Larry Hardiman) writes:
lm>I too struggled with UUPC and finally gave up on it. I believe that
lm>the difficulty I had was based primarily on my lack of knowledge
lm>of UUCP. Sigh...
lh>What I have done is to get the Waffle BBS system from the simtel
lh>archives (waf162....). I was able to get it up and
lh>make a connection to a (my) Unix host machine and exchange mail with
lh>relatively little hassle.
lh>It too took a bit of experimentation, but waffle has adaquate
lh>documentation to help. The task now is to toss all the stuff related
lh>to the bbs part; there are a lot of files and sub-directories not
lh>relevant to the email part. So.... Do I wanna run a BBS? 8-). Just
lh>kidding....
Well I have also downloaded WAFFLE 1.62 but being strictly an MSDOS
person and not having had any previous experience with Usenet/Unix
the DOCS just leave you in the DARK.The DOCS assume you know just
about everything about the host you are connecting to and the
manner in which the connection and DOS/Unix interface works.
I would appreciate it if you would be able to send me examples of
your /system/static file.Any other detail would help.
I am not interested in Waffle as a BBS but only as a single user
system.
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jack.lupic@canremote.uucp (JACK LUPIC) (06/29/90)
P Message entered 1990 06 27 21:02 P nolan@tssi.UUCP (Michael Nolan) writes: >Hopefully, some of this lack of documentation will be fixed shortly, >as I continue to work on a User's Guide. Maybe I should do a System >Administrator's Guide as well? (I'm not sure *how* it works, only >how to make it work!) Well,of all the DOS/UNIX-UUCP programs I have downloaded NONE give half-decent explanation on the UUCP world.I believe that there should be some attempt to explain to a novice DOS-only user what is going on. How can I register for any of the programs when no attempt is even made to get the user through the door of the UUCP/Unix world. The first question I asked myself when I downloaded FSUUCP and Waffle...now what am I supposed to do with this? Please don't write DOS/UUCP docs for the UNIX/UUCP types,write them for the DOS people. ---
dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) (06/30/90)
Larry@uts.amdahl.com writes: >lh>What I have done is to get the Waffle BBS system from the simtel >lh>archives (waf162....). I was able to get it up and >lh>make a connection to a (my) Unix host machine and exchange mail with >lh>relatively little hassle. >lh>It too took a bit of experimentation, but waffle has adaquate >lh>documentation to help. The task now is to toss all the stuff related and jack.lupic@canremote.uucp (JACK LUPIC) writes: >Well I have also downloaded WAFFLE 1.62 but being strictly an MSDOS >person and not having had any previous experience with Usenet/Unix >the DOCS just leave you in the DARK.The DOCS assume you know just >about everything about the host you are connecting to and the >manner in which the connection and DOS/Unix interface works. There are things the documentation won't tell you -- how to locate a newsfeed, how to register your site, how the people on the Unix end should setup their system to feed you, etc. That's because it's generally different for almost everybody. For instance, here's no way for me to guess how to find a site that would feed me in Canada. I don't live in Canada (or Florida, or Utah...) As it stands now, the documentation is "adequate" (larry's words). However, no amount of documentation can replace fifteen minutes of consultation with the administrator of the site you're connecting to. UUCP and Usenet connections are fairly involved, especially to someone who has never had one; this is true regardless of whether you're using Unix or a DOS system to communicate, and nothing can really change that fact. Anyway, one of the projects for v1.63 is documentation that is easier for a neophyte to help install the system. (It will be ready in late July..) ...Tom dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
clear@bearcave.actrix.co.nz (Charlie Lear) (07/02/90)
dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes: > Anyway, one of the projects for v1.63 is documentation that is > easier for a neophyte to help install the system. (It will be ready > in late July..) I got v1.61 up and running with only four hours or so of headscratching. v1.62 installed quickly. It DID take a long time for me to find the bugs that were causing my mail and news to go astray. The default mailer has no subject: line, which screws up my host, and it was sheer chance that I found how to do it in the docs. Lots of grep and LIST and sh-prtscn. Also couldn't figure out why none of my news was making it past the host. My host's default distribution is local. Waffle's default distribution is zilch - again, it was coincidence that I found out how to get it to prompt me for a Distribution: line. It isn't that the info is missing from the docs - its just hard to filter out. A big hint for 1.63 - PLEASE include a <K>ill function. That's Waffle's only big omission that I can see. As for the docs, perhaps you could ask for volunteers to rewrite them into a form suitable for human understanding from amongst the comp.text and comp.doc gurus. But whatever you do, PLEASE DROP the inane use of foo and bar - clear@bearcave.actrix.co.nz is a lot clearer for new users to follow than foo@foo.bar.foo.us. Regards One Very Happy Single-User Waffle Site