[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] 4DOS Version 3.01 ???

routh@eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com (Kevin Routh x622) (07/03/90)

I just downloaded a copy of 4DOS version 3.01 from the SIMTEL archives
(actually from the Wash U. copies of them).  If anyone reading this 
newsgroup has used 4DOS or has knowledge of it, please E-mail your 
comments to me.  They would like $50 to register it which seems a little 
steep BUT it seems (I just got it yesterday) like an VERY good piece
of software.  Are these first impressions of mine correct?  What are 
some other user's opinions of this software?  Thanks very much in 
advance.
--
Kevin Routh (routh@eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com)
Harris Smart Power Products, Durham, NC
(919) 361-1622

bianco@cs.odu.edu (David J. Bianco) (07/04/90)

In article <1990Jul3.132818.1537@mlb.semi.harris.com> routh@eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com (Kevin Routh x622) writes:

   I just downloaded a copy of 4DOS version 3.01 from the SIMTEL archives
   (actually from the Wash U. copies of them).  If anyone reading this 
   newsgroup has used 4DOS or has knowledge of it, please E-mail your 
   comments to me.  They would like $50 to register it which seems a little 
   steep BUT it seems (I just got it yesterday) like an VERY good piece
   of software.  Are these first impressions of mine correct?  What are 
   some other user's opinions of this software?  Thanks very much in 
   advance.

Oh yes, it is most certainly worth it! I've been using it for a few months
now, and I feel crippled when I have to go back to Command.com (but then,
dont we all? 8) Anyway, it does what it says, and reliably.  The program
is a little bigger than COMMAND.COM, but with EMS/XMS/Disk swapping, it
actually *saves* you memory! I've been using it on simulated EMS, and it
has never failed me. The command line history is a winner too, as is
the Alias feature.  In short,the only things I can find to say about
it are positive ones. I think you'll be well pleased!

reisert@ricks.enet.dec.com (Jim Reisert) (07/04/90)

4DOS - a bargain at the price! Command editing is a big win, memory usage is
a big win, command set is a big win.  I love it (but I'm not going to marry
it).

jim

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sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) (07/04/90)

I have been using 4DOS for a couple of months and like it very
much. Here is a blurb I sent a while back to DOS users on our
local network:

	Some of you might like to take a look at the
4DOS command interpreter shell (complete replacement for
DOS's COMMAND.COM) available for DOS machines. I tried
it this weekend and was quite impressed.
	Features of 4DOS include:

		* Filename completion built-in
		* Command history (recall)
		* Nice alias facility
		* Directory stack (pushdir, popdir, and dirs)
		* Better wildcards than DOS

	With all these features, I was able to discard most of
my TSR's (FILEC, CED, PUSHDIR) and in the process I wound up
with 15K more RAM than before.
	The only drawback (for DOS 3.3 users) I have found in
4DOS is the lack of the APPEND command allowing search by applications
for data and overlay files. This is not a big deal however since you
can get around it by shelling to DOS whenever needed, i.e.:

	APPEND => C:\COMMAND.COM /C APPEND

I found this to work fast and efficiently in several batch files
in which I require the APPEND command.
	Since TSR conflicts are frequently a source of annoyance
in some DOS applications, I am happy with the need for
fewer. And I like the 15K more RAM that 4DOS leaves me.
	Try it, you might like it. 4DOS is available from Simtel
PD1:<MSDOS.SYSUTL> 4DOS30.ZIP. Or I could bring it in on a disk.

	-bd-



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cohend@roadkill.rtp.dg.com (Dave Cohen) (07/10/90)

In article <1990Jul3.132818.1537@mlb.semi.harris.com>,
routh@eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com (Kevin Routh x622) writes:
|> I just downloaded a copy of 4DOS version 3.01 from the SIMTEL archives
|> ...
|> some other user's opinions of this software?  Thanks very much in 
|> advance.
|> --
|> Kevin Routh (routh@eltanin.rtp.semi.harris.com)
|> Harris Smart Power Products, Durham, NC
|> (919) 361-1622
|> 

Get it - but you can save a few bucks by not getting the manuals -
I paid $35. A real nice feature that I've found for us UNIX-DOS
cross-programmers (Donahue will feature us soon -) is how easy
it is to set up aliases for misc UNIX commands, plus you can use
either '/' or '\' as dir delimiters. BTW - PC Mag had a write up
on it a month or so ago.  

David Cohen                      |    "There's nothin' wrong with goin'    
cohend@dg-rtp.dg.com             |     nowhere, baby, but we should be   
{world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!cohend   |     should be goin' nowhere fast."       
Data General Corporation, RTP, NC|                  - Streets of Fire