mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) (07/25/90)
cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: > Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, > and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies > of the starter kit. Interesting. The same thing happened here at my site, too. For network repair teams, the Path: line looked like this: Path: mudos!ox.com!umich!samsung!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!crdgw1!sixhub!crdgw1.crd.ge.com!ibmbin-request Perhaps other sites that received truncated articles could compare, and we can find out which site did the dirty deed? Or did they get sent out truncated? Mr. Davidsen? -- Marc Unangst | mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us | Angular momentum makes the world go 'round. ...!umich!leebai!mudos!mju |
roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) (07/25/90)
Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies of the starter kit. I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15 intact. -- Roy M. Silvernail | #include <stdio.h> | Does virtual now available at: | main(){ | reality need cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu | float x=1; | swap space? (cyberspace... be here!)| printf("Just my $%.2f.\n",x/50);} | -- me
dmm0t@hudson.acc.Virginia.EDU (David M. Meyer) (07/25/90)
In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc> cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >of the starter kit. > >I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really >looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you >mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15 >intact. Exactly the same thing happened at my site. -- David M. Meyer dmm0t@virginia.edu Department of Mechanical and Aerospace Engineering University of Virginia Charlottesville, Virginia (804) 924-7926
rsmith@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Rusty Smith, MACC) (07/25/90)
In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc>, cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes... >Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >of the starter kit. > The situation is the same here. Rusty Smith Internet: rsmith@vms.macc.wisc.edu MACC Data Communications Bitnet: rsmith@wiscmacc (608) 263-6307 Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison
a563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) (07/25/90)
> pam1@ra.MsState.Edu writes: > In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: > >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, > >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies > >>>of the starter kit. > > > >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now > >>California, at the least. > > > >Massachusetts, too. > > > >--David > > Not to be outdone by damn yankees (;->) MISSISSIPPI TOO! Hey, we didn't get parts 3-7 up here in Canada, either! -- -- David Kirsch UUCP: {uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a563 Voice: (604) 327-4404 a563@mindlink.UUCP Vancouver, British Columbia 'In-no-sense? Nonsense!' - The Art Of Noise
abrams@cs.columbia.edu (Steven Abrams) (07/26/90)
In article <4096@dogie.macc.wisc.edu> rsmith@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Rusty Smith, MACC) writes: In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc>, cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes... >Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >of the starter kit. > The situation is the same here. I really *HATE* postings like this, but, we also got the same exact deal. ~~~Steve -- /************************************************* * *Steven Abrams abrams@cs.columbia.edu * **************************************************/ #include <std/dumquote.h> #include <std/disclaimer.h>
roelofs@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Cave Newt) (07/26/90)
cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>of the starter kit. dmm0t@hudson.acc.Virginia.EDU (David M. Meyer) writes: >Exactly the same thing happened at my site. Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now California, at the least. Sounds like things are corrupted at the source. Made any changes lately, Bill? :)
djb@wjh12.harvard.edu (David J. Birnbaum) (07/26/90)
>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>of the starter kit. >Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >California, at the least. Massachusetts, too. --David
pam1@ra.MsState.Edu (Phillip A. McReynolds) (07/26/90)
In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. > >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. > >Massachusetts, too. > >--David Not to be outdone by damn yankees (;->) MISSISSIPPI TOO! -------------------------------- Phillip McReynolds pam1@ra.msstate.edu Bored? Try login: bbs at MARS.EE.MSSTATE.EDU (130.18.64.3), the Mars Hotel. (More grist for the rn mill.) . . . (more of the same.)
stdtm@uokmax.uucp (Timothy A. Melton) (07/26/90)
In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. > >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. > >Massachusetts, too. > >--David Add Oklahoma to the list (for what its worth!). I assume that the mail out is screwed. Wanna try again? Tim -- ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Timothy A Melton University of Oklahoma Graduate Student Deptartment of Chemical Engineering
lars@iclswe.icl.se (Lars Tunkrans) (07/26/90)
In article <1990Jul25.160609.15167@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dmm0t@hudson.acc.Virginia.EDU (David M. Meyer) writes: >In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc> cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>of the starter kit. >> >>I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really >>looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you >>mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15 >>intact. > >Exactly the same thing happened at my site. > No part 3-7 is missing here in Sweden too !! Please repost. -- Lars Tunkrans Phone +46 (0)76096368. | The ICL DRS6000 SPARC system is still DRS Systems Support. | the only off the shelf deliverable UUCP: uunet!mcsun!sunic!iclswe!lars | Unix System V Release 4.0 system. DOMAIN Address : lars@iclswe.icl.se |
ttgr8@tuewsn.win.tue.nl (Coen van der Maas) (07/26/90)
In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes:
*>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated,
*>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies
*>>of the starter kit.
*
*>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now
*>California, at the least.
*
*Massachusetts, too.
*
*--David
We received parts 1,2 and 8 through 15 here at E.U.T.
I think parts 3 through 7 never got onto the net.
A repost would be in order I think.
greetings CvdM.
kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de (Reinhard Kirchner) (07/26/90)
From article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc>, by cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail): > Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, > and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies > of the starter kit. > Here arrived parts 1,2, 8-15. So we europeans are also in the game -:( R. Kirchner Univ. Kaiserslautern, Germany kirchner@informatik.uni-kl.de
kolb@itksu5.kub.nl (Hans-Peter Kolb) (07/26/90)
In article <1990Jul25.160609.15167@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dmm0t@hudson.acc.Virginia.EDU (David M. Meyer) writes: |> In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc> cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: |> >Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, |> >and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies |> >of the starter kit. |> > |> >I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really |> >looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you |> >mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15 |> >intact. |> |> Exactly the same thing happened at my site. |> Here, too ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ hans-peter kolb kolb@kub.nl Computational Linguistics kolb@htikub5.bitnet Tilburg University (KUB) P.O.Box 90 153 The Netherlands NL-5000 LE Tilburg ------------------------------------------------------------------------
jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) (07/26/90)
>>> ... ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. >Massachusetts, too. Portugal (in Europe), 13 parts truncated, only 2 good -- Jose Pedro T. Pina Coelho | BITNET/Internet: jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt Rua Jau N 1, 2 Dto | UUCP: jpc@unl.uucp 1300 Lisboa, PORTUGAL | ARPA: jpc%hara.fctunl.rccn.pt@mitvma.mit.edu Home phone: (+351) (1) 640767 - If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister ?
derek@sun4dts.dts.ine.philips.nl (derek) (07/26/90)
djb@wjh12.harvard.edu (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. >Massachusetts, too. >--David And Holland - wow! it must be UNIVERSAL! :-) Bill's doing a great job, but gremlins do get in don't they? These mailings I _hope_ are meant as help for our moderator, and _not_ complaints. Best Regards, Derek Carr DEREK@DTS.INE.PHILIPS.NL Philips I&E TQV-5 Eindhoven, The Netherlands Standard Disclaimers apply.
spell@uncw.UUCP (Chris Spell) (07/26/90)
In <622@ra.MsState.Edu> pam1@ra.MsState.Edu (Phillip A. McReynolds) writes: >>>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>>California, at the least. >> >>Massachusetts, too. >> >>--David >Not to be outdone by damn yankees (;->) MISSISSIPPI TOO! Add North Carolina. chris -- -- Chris Spell spell@uncw.uucp
kevin@kosman.UUCP (Kevin O'Gorman) (07/26/90)
cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
]Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated,
]and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies
]of the starter kit.
]I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really
]looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you
]mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15
]intact.
Me too. Looks like a major portion of the net lost this.
--
Kevin O'Gorman ( kevin@kosman.UUCP, kevin%kosman.uucp@nrc.com )
voice: 805-984-8042 Vital Computer Systems, 5115 Beachcomber, Oxnard, CA 93035
Non-Disclaimer: my boss is me, and he stands behind everything I say.
imp@dancer.Solbourne.COM (Warner Losh) (07/27/90)
Parts 3-7 Never showed up here. Haven't looked at parts 8-15 to see if they were truncated or not. Repost in order, or at least a pointer to an FTP site.... Warner -- Warner Losh imp@Solbourne.COM Boycott Lotus. #include <std/disclaimer>
joefritz@pawl.rpi.edu (Jochen M. Fritz) (07/27/90)
In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. > >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. > >Massachusetts, too. > Even Troy, NY (Real close to Schenecty (sp)) Bill's source. -Joe
jrwsnsr@nmt.edu (Jonathan R. Watts) (07/27/90)
From article <Just about every article in this ^&@! group>, by Just About Everyone: Ok, guys, I think we get the idea that parts 3-7 of ms_sh didn't show up and the others were mangled. At least stop quoting everyone else in the damn "me-too"s! Sheesh! - Jonathan Watts jrwsnsr@jupiter.nmt.edu (Internet address)
bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) (07/27/90)
Missing parts 3-7 of the ms_sh utilities here also; the starter kit showed up twice, between parts 1-2 and parts 8-15 of the ms_sh utilities. Here's the path from the ms_sh utilities, part 1: From mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!crdgw1!sixhub!crdgw1.crd.ge.com!ibmbin-request Thu Jul 26 20:06:15 EST 1990 Other than Bill's "home" machines, this path and Marc Unangst's share only the zaphod node.
nbladt@aut.UUCP (Norbert Bladt) (07/27/90)
djb@wjh12.harvard.edu (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. >Massachusetts, too. And the (non-US state) Switzerland. (Parts 1 and 2 are OK. Parts 3-7 never arrived, parts 8 to 13 showed up, but I did not check their contents, yet). >--David -- Norbert Bladt, Ascom Autelca AG, Worbstr. 201, CH-3073 Guemligen, Switzerland Phone: +41 31 52 92 14 EMail: ..!uunet!mcsun!chx400!hslrswi!aut!nbladt -- Norbert Bladt, Ascom Autelca AG, Worbstr. 201, CH-3073 Guemligen, Switzerland Phone: +41 31 52 92 14 EMail: ..!uunet!mcsun!chx400!hslrswi!aut!nbladt
ns@iddth.UUCP (ns) (07/27/90)
In <^'3$HW=@rpi.edu> joefritz@pawl.rpi.edu (Jochen M. Fritz) writes: ]In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: ]>>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, ]>>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies ]>>>of the starter kit. ]> ]>>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now ]>>California, at the least. ]> ]>Massachusetts, too. ]> ]Even Troy, NY (Real close to Schenecty (sp)) Bill's source. Add Denmark to the above list... (with one difference: we didn't got part 10...) -- | Nicky Sandru (alias Long Haired Nicky) | Backpacker's First Law: | Hoje Topholm 37 | e-mail: | "The thing you need lies either | DK-3390 Hundested | ns@iddth.id.dk | in the bottom of your backpack, | Denmark | ns@iddth2.id.dk | or in a closet at your home..." -- | Nicky Sandru (alias Long Haired Nicky) | Backpacker's First Law: | Hoje Topholm 37 | e-mail: | "The thing you need lies either | DK-3390 Hundested | ns@iddth.id.dk | in the bottom of your backpack, | Denmark | ns@iddth2.id.dk | or in a closet at your home..."
anigbogu@loria.crin.fr (Julian Anigbogu) (07/27/90)
In article <618@aut.UUCP> nbladt@aut.UUCP (Norbert Bladt) writes: >djb@wjh12.harvard.edu (David J. Birnbaum) writes: > >>>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>>California, at the least. > >>Massachusetts, too. > >And the (non-US state) Switzerland. Add FRANCE to the growing list of areas that parts 3-7 never made it to. Did they ever make it out because I haven't seen any claims from a site that got them. Bill might have had problems posting them because parts 14 and 15 were effectively truncated as David noted. Bill are you tuned in !!if so can you repost the missing parts and the truncated parts you won't have hundreds of mails landing in your mailbox. It might even be better to repost the whole thing if somebody had practically all files truncated; who knows which other sites had the same problems. Counting on you Bill. Julian -- --------------------------------------- e-mail: anigbogu@loria.crin.fr | All opinions expressed here are | | naturally mine. However ... | ----------------------------------------
roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) (07/27/90)
bobmon@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (RAMontante) writes: > Here's the path from the ms_sh utilities, part 1: > > From mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.prim > Thu Jul 26 20:06:15 EST 1990 > > Other than Bill's "home" machines, this path and Marc Unangst's share only > the zaphod node. I checked, and the path to my site also shares the zaphod node. Perhaps that's where the nasties occurred? -- Roy M. Silvernail | #include <stdio.h> | Does virtual now available at: | main(){ | reality need cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu | float x=1; | swap space? (cyberspace... be here!)| printf("Just my $%.2f.\n",x/50);} | -- me
gary@fryepro.UUCP (Gary L. Scorby) (07/27/90)
In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc> cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >of the starter kit. > Mine arrived exactly as stated above. A repost would be helpful. Gary Scorby -- * Gary L. Scorby * * gary@fryepro.UUCP * * tektronix!percy!fryepro!gary *
dtinker@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (David Tinker) (07/28/90)
In Article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu>, djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. >Massachusetts, too. Add Toronto, Ont. (Canada) to the list. --David O. Tinker -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ! David O. Tinker ! ^ ^ ! UUCP: dtinker@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca ! ! Department of Biochemistry !< O O >! BITNET: dtinker@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca ! ! University of Toronto ! ^ ! Voice: (416) 978-3636 !
einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) (07/28/90)
In article <1990Jul26.064706.16876@iclswe.icl.se> lars@iclswe.UUCP (Lars Tunkrans) writes: > >No part 3-7 is missing here in Sweden too !! Please repost. They didn't arrive here either. -- I just learned a new curse: "You #$@! son of SCROLLBAR!" Internet: einari@rhi.hi.is | 'Just give me my command line and throw UUCP: ..!mcsun!isgate!rhi!einari | the GUIs in the dust-bin!!!!!!!!!'
doerschu@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Dave Doerschuk) (07/28/90)
In article <523@wjh12.harvard.edu> djb@wjh12.UUCP (David J. Birnbaum) writes: >>>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>>of the starter kit. >>Here as well: that makes it Minnesota, Wisconsin, Virginia and now >>California, at the least. >Massachusetts, too. . . . . . . . and Louisiana! :-(
jaye@intermec.UUCP (Jaye Jarchow x2735) (07/31/90)
In article <1990Jul25.160609.15167@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> dmm0t@hudson.acc.Virginia.EDU (David M. Meyer) writes: >In article <g7eVm1w162w@cybrspc> cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes: >>Parts 8-13 of the ms_sh utilities posting arrived at my site truncated, >>and parts 3-7 never arrived at all. We also received 2 truncated copies >>of the starter kit. >> >>I hate to ask for a repost of such a massive file, but I was really >>looking forward to it. If another site recieved 8-13 intact, could you >>mail them to me? Did anyone get 3-7 at all? I now have 1, 2, 14 and 15 >>intact. > >Exactly the same thing happened at my site. And also here. Could someone please repost? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jaye Jarchow | "... she said, with the sort of calmness that comes | to people when they realize that however bad things Intermec Corp. | may seem to be, there is absolutely no reason why | they shouldn't simply get worse and worse." | - Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (08/01/90)
In article <FVHum3w162w@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes: | Or did they get sent out truncated? Mr. Davidsen? The starter kit was okay when it left here. It was mailed directly from the original file, and looks fine in the newsgroup. Needless to say I have a long retension on cbip here. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (08/01/90)
In article <571@sun4dts.dts.ine.philips.nl> derek@sun4dts.dts.ine.philips.nl (derek) writes: | These mailings I _hope_ are meant as help for our moderator, and _not_ | complaints. If I didn't hear from people I would never have known that there were problems. The missing parts are on their way, and the starter kit again. Since it was only 24k to start, it wasn't a length problem. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
baird@cod.NOSC.MIL (John M. Baird) (08/02/90)
From article <1386@sixhub.UUCP>, by davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr): > If I didn't hear from people I would never have known that there were > problems. The missing parts are on their way, and the starter kit again. Now prepare for a wave of "but 08-13 are too short" articles. Could those also be reposted, since only about the first 1/3 of each was received. John Baird, Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA USA