[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] Read-Only Hard Disk

marcus@quiche (Mark FREEDMAN) (08/01/90)

We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
and 'protect', mark the entire disk rather than a single partition.
Any pointers to ftp sites will be greatly appreciated.

                                 Thanks,

                                 - Mark

devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder) (08/02/90)

In article <3809@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca> marcus@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Mark FREEDMAN) writes:
>
>We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
>partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
>and 'protect', mark the entire disk rather than a single partition.
>Any pointers to ftp sites will be greatly appreciated.
>
>                                 Thanks,
>
>                                 - Mark

I am also looking for such a program.  Similarly, I am also looking for 	a program that will read-protect a disk/partition.

--Eric DeVolder
  Kansas State Univerisity

  Sorry, no sig

smwong@hantsv.enet.dec.com (Stephen Wong) (08/02/90)

In article <3809@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca>, marcus@quiche (Mark FREEDMAN) writes:
 
|> We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
|> partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
|> and 'protect', mark the entire disk rather than a single partition.

You may consider `Disk Manager'.  If partitions are created by DM, you may alter
these partitions to be Read Only or Read/Write by using DM.  However, you'll
need the DM driver in your config.sys, ie. loss a few Kbytes conventional
memory.  Moreover, the boot partition cannot be set to Read Only, since only DM
created partitions can have this capability.

stephen@hantsq.enet.dec.com

ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) (08/03/90)

In article <1990Aug1.182905.26354@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder) writes:
>In article <3809@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca> marcus@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Mark FREEDMAN) writes:
>>We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
>>partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
)
)I am also looking for such a program.  Similarly, I am also looking for
)a program that will read-protect a disk/partition.

This reply is admittedly somewhat off target, but how about hiding
the main directory of the relevant partition.  This should be a kind
of a surrogate read protection.  There are PD utilities around for
hiding directories (just look at the various ftp site file lists). 
(Or it is relatively easy to write one).  The advantage of this
method is that it is rather harmless.  Watch out for command.com,
however, and make sure that it can be found by your system if you
hide things. 

...................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi        (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3)
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder) (08/03/90)

In article <1990Aug2.203010.7154@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) writes:
>>>We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
>>>partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
>)
>)I am also looking for such a program.  Similarly, I am also looking for
>)a program that will read-protect a disk/partition.
>
>This reply is admittedly somewhat off target, but how about hiding
>the main directory of the relevant partition.  This should be a kind
>of a surrogate read protection.  There are PD utilities around for
>hiding directories (just look at the various ftp site file lists). 
>(Or it is relatively easy to write one).  The advantage of this
>method is that it is rather harmless.  Watch out for command.com,
>however, and make sure that it can be found by your system if you
>hide things. 
>

Perhaps I do not understand by "hiding" the main directory.  I have plenty of
utilities that allow me to hide/unhide subdirectories, but not the root
directory, as I understand your reply.  Or do you mean to somehow relocate
the actual root directory/FAT?  I know relocating the FAT on an Apple II
was possible, but on  a DOS disk?  Please help me understand your response.

Is it possible to hide the root directory?  Has anyone ever done this before?

Eric DeVolder
Kansas State University

notes@dungeon.UUCP (08/06/90)

-> Written  by ts@uwasa.fi
-> In article <1990Aug1.182905.26354@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder) writes:
-> >... marcus@quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (Mark FREEDMAN) writes:
-> >>We are looking for software that will mark a given hard disk 
-> >>partition as 'read-only'.  The only PD ones I've seen, 'wphd' 
-> )
-> )I am also looking for such a program.  Similarly, I am also looking for
-> )a program that will read-protect a disk/partition.
-> 
-> This reply is admittedly somewhat off target, but how about hiding
-> the main directory of the relevant partition.  This should be a kind
-> of a surrogate read protection.  There are PD utilities around for
-> hiding directories (just look at the various ftp site file lists). 
-> (Or it is relatively easy to write one).  The advantage of this
-> method is that it is rather harmless.  Watch out for command.com,
-> however, and make sure that it can be found by your system if you
-> hide things. 
-> 

	Unfortuntaly, I hid a directory on our last distrubution disk.  The
result was the everyone and their brother could look at the directory, (there
are a *lot* of programs that kinda ignore a directories hidden flag - Ie: 
Pctools, Norton's, and many, many other programs.)  The only real effect of
hiding the directory was that when someone's disk out there crashed, they 
had to reinstall the software from scratch as their backup didn't contain
my directory!

	I decided that it had truly failed when I had someone ask me what
files in this directory were really needed!  He had already deleted most
of the ones that "he figured out that he didn't need."

	The above method isn't going to stop anyone, and is *much* more
effort than it's worth.  [And doesn't solve the problem.]


	What I'd like is a "set-uid'ed" program that can write to a directory
that noone else can write to.  This would be absolutely wonderful!  I'd even
pay bucks for it..

	-Chert

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A professional knows how hard.  And a wise man knows when to kick it.

jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) (08/06/90)

I have a program that protects the primary partition against
write/format and the secondary partition against format.
All other partitions are protected against write/format.

I can submit the source & .com to c.b.i.p (As soon as I find it's tape).

The program catches int 13 and checks the requests against the
partition tabler.

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devolder@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Eric DeVolder) (08/07/90)

In article <JPC.90Aug6141432@fogo.fctunl.rccn.pt> jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) writes:
>
>I have a program that protects the primary partition against
>write/format and the secondary partition against format.
>All other partitions are protected against write/format.
>
>I can submit the source & .com to c.b.i.p (As soon as I find it's tape).
>
>The program catches int 13 and checks the requests against the
>partition tabler.
>
>--
>Jose Pedro T. Pina Coelho   | BITNET/Internet: jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt
>Rua Jau N 1, 2 Dto          | UUCP: jpc@unl.uucp
>1300 Lisboa, PORTUGAL       | ARPA: jpc%hara.fctunl.rccn.pt@mitvma.mit.edu
>Home phone: (+351) (1) 640767
>
>- If all men were brothers, would you let one marry your sister ?

Jose,
  Yes, please post this to the group.  I would certainly find this most
beneficial and would greatly appreciate it.

Eric DeVolder
Kansas State University

ee5391aa@hydra.unm.edu (Duke McMullan n5gax) (08/08/90)

For a REAL read-only hard disk, it seemeth to mineself that you want a switch
on the disk's WRITE line, preferably in a way that makes it VISIBLY refuse to
write. A keyswitch of course, and I'll keep the key ;^).

"But seriously, folks," this is something that's been interesting me for some
time. Could any of you point me to books/magazine_articles which give descrip-
tions of SCSI and whateverthehell the other common HD interfaces are at the
line-and-signal level?


					Thanks...MANY thanks...in advance,
								d


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