[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] IBM PCJr

mrice@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael Rice) (08/15/90)

Hello net folks.  A friend of mine recently obtained a old IBM PCJr
and has asked me to assist him in finding software for it.  Does anyone
know of a FTP site,newsgroup, or other source of PC Jr software?

Thanks.
		Mike

wmf@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Fischer) (08/17/90)

In article <1990Aug15.040807.9731@caen.engin.umich.edu> mrice@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael Rice) writes:
>Hello net folks.  A friend of mine recently obtained a old IBM PCJr
>and has asked me to assist him in finding software for it.  Does anyone
>know of a FTP site,newsgroup, or other source of PC Jr software?
>

Try alt.sys.boat.anchors


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ttak@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Takahashi) (08/17/90)

In article <1990Aug16.205629.1094@chinet.chi.il.us> wmf@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Fischer) writes:
>In article <1990Aug15.040807.9731@caen.engin.umich.edu> mrice@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael Rice) writes:
>>Hello net folks.  A friend of mine recently obtained a old IBM PCJr
>>and has asked me to assist him in finding software for it.  Does anyone
>
>Try alt.sys.boat.anchors

Come off it! Let's not make the PC Jr to be any worse than it is.

First of all, I discovered that the PC Jr can run any current version of DOS
 including 4.00.

If you are lucky, and have more than 128k of RAM (640k expansion box) then
things are not so bad (otherwise they are quite bad).

Either way, the JR will NOT run QuickBasic, TurboBasic, Windows, et.al.
The JR will run :

MathCad (student edition)
Lotus 123 v. 1.x
Pfs : Write

and the following PD-software 

PC-DIAL JR. - TELECOMMUNICATIONS
PC-FILE III JR. - DATABASE
PC-CALC JR - SPREADSHEET
PC-WRITE (older versions) - TEXT EDIT / WORD PROCESSING

and I believe PD-software like

PC-OUTLINE
CHASM

will also run (requires <128k)

Most of this is available from PC-SIG.

tim

minar@reed.bitnet (Nelson Minar,L08,x640,7776519) (08/18/90)

In article <8977@ur-cc.UUCP> ttak@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Takahashi) writes:
>In article <1990Aug16.205629.1094@chinet.chi.il.us> wmf@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Fischer) writes:
>>In article <1990Aug15.040807.9731@caen.engin.umich.edu> mrice@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael Rice) writes:
>>>Hello net folks.  A friend of mine recently obtained a old IBM PCJr
>>>and has asked me to assist him in finding software for it.  Does anyone
>>
>>Try alt.sys.boat.anchors
>
>Come off it! Let's not make the PC Jr to be any worse than it is.

>Either way, the JR will NOT run QuickBasic, TurboBasic, Windows, et.al.
>The JR will run :

I might add that the first C programs I wrote were on a PC Jr, running
Turbo C 1.5. I went to a really stupid high school - they bought TIs
when they were $200, and they bought a bunch of IBM PC Jrs when they
were cheap too.  Needless to say, they were practically useless computers
(alt.sys.boat.anchors being appropriate), but the Jrs were mildly usable.

They ran Turbo Pascal 3.0 just dandy like. Its an old language, but its usable.

Someone managed to hack together a copy of TC 1.5 small enough to run on a
PC Jr. It fit on two 360k disks, and probably included a bare minimum of
header files, only the small libraries, and not much else. We were using the
integrated environment, for what its worth. I think I even managed to run
the compiler on a 128k Jr once, but I definitely wouldn't swear to it.

Anyway, if you take an old version of Turbo C, and use the command line
compiler (which is better anyway, IMHO), it should run ok on a 640k Jr. Now
then, I will not relate stories of how Fast the compiler went, other than to
say that compiling hello.c on a 2 floppy system took over 90 seconds. I soon
convinced my school to purchase an AT, and life was happy..

medin@cod.NOSC.MIL (Ted Medin) (08/21/90)

In article <8977@ur-cc.UUCP> ttak@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Takahashi) writes:
>In article <1990Aug16.205629.1094@chinet.chi.il.us> wmf@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Fischer) writes:
>>In article <1990Aug15.040807.9731@caen.engin.umich.edu> mrice@caen.engin.umich.edu (Michael Rice) writes:
>>Try alt.sys.boat.anchors
>First of all, I discovered that the PC Jr can run any current version of DOS
> including 4.00.

 Interesting i doubt this. I had a pcjr with 640k & hard disk. When i 
tried to run 3.3 it would work for a while and then lock up. Tried the
install twice over 6 mos and still no bannana. Back to 3.1 and worked like
a champ. The jr was not that bad of a machine i had mine for several yrs.
And yes its supprising how much software it would run. I used microsoft c
without any problems even the debuger.
73, ted
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