[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] Missing INFOP100 part 3/3

kervahut@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Tanguy Kervahut) (08/13/90)

Hello everyone,

well, as the title says, I never received part 3/3 of infop100.
Could someone who did please email it to me? Or if it is available
via ftp, tell me where?
Thanks.
	Tanguy-

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ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) (08/14/90)

In article <1990Aug13.152727.10634@IRO.UMontreal.CA> kervahut@olivier.UUCP (Tanguy Kervahut) writes:
>well, as the title says, I never received part 3/3 of infop100.
>Could someone who did please email it to me? Or if it is available
>via ftp, tell me where?

Our site chyde.uwasa.fi has it as /pc/pd2/infop100.zip for anonymous
download.  It is an excellent utility, but depending on your PC you
may get stuck on some page(s). 

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Prof. Timo Salmi        (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3)
School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland
Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun

andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Andrew Rossmann) (08/15/90)

  Infoplus version 1.25 is now avilable on SIMTEL20. It is there as:
PD1:<MSDOS.INFO>INFOP125.ZIP

  Andrew Rossmann
  andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM

dak@hpausla.aso.hp.com (Dave Kruger) (08/16/90)

Andrew Rossmann <andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM> writes in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d:
>   Infoplus version 1.25 is now avilable on SIMTEL20. It is there as:
> PD1:<MSDOS.INFO>INFOP125.ZIP

>   Andrew Rossmann
>   andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM

I obtained version 1.25 from Simtel20.  Unfortunately, it *still* hangs my
25MHz 386 (HP Vectra RS/25C) when it gets to Page 2.  It gets past the "CPU:"
prompt, but hangs on the "Coprocessor:" prompt five lines later.  (I don't
have a coprocessor.)  Even CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work.

Oh well, it *looked* good.

Dave K.

andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Andrew Rossmann) (08/18/90)

In article <2210019@hpausla.aso.hp.com> dak@hpausla.aso.hp.com (Dave Kruger) writes:
>I obtained version 1.25 from Simtel20.  Unfortunately, it *still* hangs my
>25MHz 386 (HP Vectra RS/25C) when it gets to Page 2.  It gets past the "CPU:"
>prompt, but hangs on the "Coprocessor:" prompt five lines later.  (I don't
>have a coprocessor.)  Even CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work.
>
>Oh well, it *looked* good.
>
>Dave K.

  I've gotten several messages about the problem (I split the CPU and NDP
tests for just the above reason!) I've been looking at code used in other
programs, and did notice that it uses the code:
MOV AX,0
OUT F0,AX
    just before trying the coprocessor codes.
  What does the above do? Will it help?
  I'm working on the next version, it'll detect Desqview and Windows 3, and
have a Black&White mode, along with some more bug fixes (some year maybe
I'll get that CPU/NDP detection to work right!!! :-)  )

  Andrew Rossmann
  andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM

toye@sunrise.stanford.edu (George Toye) (08/19/90)

In article <2210019@hpausla.aso.hp.com> dak@hpausla.aso.hp.com (Dave Kruger) writes:
>Andrew Rossmann <andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM> writes in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d:
>>   Infoplus version 1.25 is now avilable on SIMTEL20. It is there as:
>> PD1:<MSDOS.INFO>INFOP125.ZIP
>
>I obtained version 1.25 from Simtel20.  Unfortunately, it *still* hangs my
>25MHz 386 (HP Vectra RS/25C) when it gets to Page 2.  It gets past the "CPU:"
>prompt, but hangs on the "Coprocessor:" prompt five lines later.  (I don't
>have a coprocessor.)  Even CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work.
>Dave K.

I have found that all versions of this software derived from SYSID 4.4 on
ward has similar problems on many 386 and 386sx machines without coprocessors.
It is as DAK@hp describes ... the code which tries to determine the math
coprocessor type causes these machines to hang.  (NOTE: SYSID 4.3 implements
this part of the code differently and works just fine.)  Is there some
common element to the systems that hang ... like all use AMI BIOS?  They do
not safely return from a math coprocessor exception caused by a missing 387
(uninitialized vector or hardware design)?
The machines that I have encountered so far with this problem have in common
the AMI BIOS.  Does everyone with AMI BIOS, no 387 have similar results?

	-George Toye

andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Andrew Rossmann) (08/22/90)

In article <1990Aug18.221135.21163@portia.Stanford.EDU> toye@sunrise.stanford.edu (George Toye) writes:
>I have found that all versions of this software derived from SYSID 4.4 on
>ward has similar problems on many 386 and 386sx machines without coprocessors.
>It is as DAK@hp describes ... the code which tries to determine the math
>coprocessor type causes these machines to hang.  (NOTE: SYSID 4.3 implements
>this part of the code differently and works just fine.)  Is there some
>common element to the systems that hang ... like all use AMI BIOS?  They do
>not safely return from a math coprocessor exception caused by a missing 387
>(uninitialized vector or hardware design)?
>The machines that I have encountered so far with this problem have in common
>the AMI BIOS.  Does everyone with AMI BIOS, no 387 have similar results?


  I'm continuing to look into the problem. I've made further changes for
the upcoming edition, primarily by looking at how other programs find out!!
 Considering how everyone thinks that the AMI BIOS is so fantastic, that it
has this one major bug!!
  If you are having problems, I'd probably be inclined to write a little
test program to see if my latest version works, without having to go
through a whole major upgrade of INFOPLUS.

  Andrew Rossmann
  andyross@ddsw1.MCS.COM