dfoster@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Derek R. Foster) (10/04/90)
I know that at least one set of bug fixes for Turbo C++ was uploaded to SIMTEL recently. I have applied these to my copy of TC++, but was surprised to find that by far the most annoying bug to me was not fixed. The one I am speaking of is the fact that when I run a program from within the IDE, my mouse cursor becomes invisible and won't become visible again unless I exit and restart TC++. Obviously, an invisible mouse cursor is essentially unusable. Has anyone else had this problem and fixed it? Is there another set of bug fixes around that I haven't seen? Why haven't I heard anyone else mention this bug? I have had the same problem on two completely different systems, so I think it's unlikely that my hardware or mouse software is at fault. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Derek Foster
levericw@clutx.clarkson.edu (Druid Allanon,Integrator,2659050,2652545) (10/04/90)
From article <8843@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>, by dfoster@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Derek R. Foster): > ... > two completely different systems, so I think it's unlikely that my > hardware or mouse software is at fault. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks! > Derek Foster Sorry to tell you, but it is your mouse software. I had the same problem with my Genius GM-6000. An upgrade to the newer driver fixed it. Version 9.03 I think. But I still have the problem of no mouse support in TD. The only way I can fix this one is to run Microsoft's driver and my mouse in two button mode. Any care to take a stab at this one??? Hope this helps. -Walden PS: Netland: Sorry about the dual posting, if one exists. Not sure if my last posting got out. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Walden H. Leverich III | Inet: levericw@clutx.clarkson.edu ECE Dept. | CServ: 73237,2212 <- checked weekly Clarkson University | SnailMail: 100 Market St. | N.C.M. Apt 18 | Potsdam, NY 13676-1703 #include <std_disclamer_about_what_I_say> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
dfoster@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Derek R. Foster) (10/05/90)
Regarding my problems with my mouse cursor disappearing in Turbo C++: I received e-mail replies from the following people: David Quasar Bianco Russ Nelson tamboer Richard L Impett Russ Nelson Keith L. Fries jwbirdsa ahodgson Plus several people's net replies which you've probably seen if you're reading this. Everyone seemed to think the problem was in my mouse driver, which is apparently outdated. I've listed a few responses below which add more details / workarounds. Thanks to all who replied! From: David "Quasar" Bianco <bianco@xanth.cs.odu.edu> >Its not a bug in TC++! its your mouse driver....get a >newer version and it will probably end your >trouble From: tamboer@cs.vu.nl >I had the same problem and thought it was a bug, too. >But when I used the .com version of my mouse driver instead of the >.sys version, the problem went away. Perhaps you should try to load >your drivers/TSRs in a different order. >I hope this helps, > Erik From: Richard L Impett <impett@super.org> > Look in the front >of the TC++ manuals- somewhere they state which version of the mouse >driver you need for several varieties of mouse. It's on page 3 of the "getting started" manual. Just for reference: Microsoft Mouse version 6.1 or later Logitech Mouse version 3.4 or later Mouse Systems PC Mouse version 6.22 or later (my problem) IMSI mouse version 6.11 or later. From: Keith L. Fries <fries@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> >RE: Turbo C++ mouse disappearing. This was discussed earlier. Borland >is assuming that you are using the latest and greatest mouse driver, which >has some new features. Even though your mouse cursor disappears it is >probably still active. There is a menu pick to re-draw the screen, this >will bring back the mouse cursor. It may be on the furthest left menu pick. >(I don't have the documentation here so I can't be more specific.) > >It's a kludge, but it should get you going with your current mouse driver. From: jwbirdsa@amc.COM (James Birdsall) > Turbo C++ (and the >other mouseable releases: TD 2.0, TProf 1.0) are said to use a very recent >driver call which saves and/or restores the mouse state or something like that. >And they specifically warn in the docs that new mouse drivers may be needed. Again, thanks for the help! Derek Riippa Foster
shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Michael Shackelford) (10/05/90)
In article <1990Oct4.053512.7779@news.clarkson.edu> levericw@clutx.clarkson.edu writes: > .... But I still have the problem of no mouse support in TD. >-Walden Huh? No mouse support in TD 2.0??? Mine works fine! Or are you talking about TD 1.0? If you havent upgraded to TD2.0 and get the chance, I recommend you go for it! The profiler has helped me find a performance problem which I had been chasing for months, and the new debugger is improved also. The mouse interface is great! Dave | shack@cs.arizona.edu
unhd (Roger Gonzalez ) (10/05/90)
The poop I've heard is that the mouse disappearing act is due to obsolete Microsoft mouse drivers, not the Turbo C++ package (well, indirectly in that they are only supporting the newer driver.) I have to live with the problem since I am using a vintage Mouse Systems PC Mouse. There is a way out, fortunately: Go to the left-hand-most menu and select "repaint desktop". Et Voila.. a mouse cursor. Incidently, what are the other bugs? I haven't hit them yet, apparantly. -Roger -- "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim" - Edsgar W. Dijkstra rg@unhd.unh.edu | UNH Marine Systems Engineering Laboratory r_gonzalez@unhh.bitnet | Durham, NH 03824-3525
einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) (10/06/90)
In article <442@caslon.cs.arizona.edu> shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Michael Shackelford) writes: >In article <1990Oct4.053512.7779@news.clarkson.edu> levericw@clutx.clarkson.edu writes: >> .... But I still have the problem of no mouse support in TD. >>-Walden > > >Huh? No mouse support in TD 2.0??? Mine works fine! Or are you talking >about TD 1.0? If you havent upgraded to TD2.0 and get the chance, I About mouse support. Are you useing an ANSI driver called 'NNANSI.SYS'? I was and whenever I entered TD I lost my mouse, but the mouse came back when I exited from TD. I found out that TD 2.0 and NNANSI.SYS (don't remember the version numer) are not compatible. This happen if NNANSI.SYS is configured to 'fast-update-the-screen' by moveing the starting address. The author (toma@tekgvs.labs.tek.com) does know about that problem and I think that work is in progress to correct it. The new TD v2.0 is great. (And so are the new TC++, TPROF and TASM) (Disclaimer: No, I don't get any money from Borland by advertising their products (Borland, are you listening?) :-) -- I just learned a new curse: "You #$@! son of a SCROLLBAR!" Internet: einari@rhi.hi.is | 'Just give me my command line and throw UUCP: ..!mcsun!isgate!rhi!einari | the GUIs in the dust-bin!!!!!!!!!'