[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] MINIX on c.b.i.p

lupic@micasa.UUCP (Jack Lupic) (09/15/90)

I'd like to get a copy of Minix Demo program but everyone keeps
referring to c.b.i.p .

What the heck is c.b.i.p. and could Minix be posted somewhere
so it's accesible via email?

Jack Lupic

Scarborough,Ont-CANADA

ardai@teda.UUCP (Mike Ardai) (09/18/90)

In article <0uiiP1w162w@micasa.UUCP> torag!micasa!lupic writes:
-What the heck is c.b.i.p. and could Minix be posted somewhere
-so it's accesible via email?

c.b.i.p is comp.binaries.ibm.pc 
/mike

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felton@eng3.UUCP (Ed Felton) (09/18/90)

Jack Lupic writes:
 
> I'd like to get a copy of Minix Demo program but everyone keeps
> referring to c.b.i.p .
 
> What the heck is c.b.i.p. and could Minix be posted somewhere
> so it's accesible via email?
> 

c.b.i.p == comp.binaries.ibm.pc 

c.b.i.p is a usenet group, specifically the parent of this one.  
if you got here, you probably came by way of c.b.i.p.

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reich@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dick Reichenbach) (10/08/90)

About a month ago someone requested that MINIX be posted on c.b.i.p
This was supported by many people in c.b.i.p.d, but nothing ever happened.
Is something still being done, or has the project been dropped?

Another question is, I thought MINIX was commercial software that is, of
course, protected by copyright.
Well, is it or is it not commercial software?
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davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (10/09/90)

In article <5417@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> reich@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dick Reichenbach) writes:
| About a month ago someone requested that MINIX be posted on c.b.i.p
| This was supported by many people in c.b.i.p.d, but nothing ever happened.
| Is something still being done, or has the project been dropped?

  The posting requires that the moderator write a support program in his
spare time. Andy sent me the demo disk as a 360k file, I have to write a
program to read the file and write it to a disk in raw format (ie. it's
not a DOS disk).

  Since I've been spending my time on other problems it hasn't gotten done.
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teexnma@ioe.lon.ac.uk (Nino Margetic) (10/10/90)

In article <5417@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> reich@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dick Reichenbach) writes:
>About a month ago someone requested that MINIX be posted on c.b.i.p
>This was supported by many people in c.b.i.p.d, but nothing ever happened.
>Is something still being done, or has the project been dropped?
>
>Another question is, I thought MINIX was commercial software that is, of
>course, protected by copyright.
>Well, is it or is it not commercial software?

Yes, it would be nice to know something about that. Can anyone shed
some light into the matter? BTW, as far as I know, MINIX is Copyright
to Prentice-Hall Inc, and as it says in the comment of the source code
(in the Tanenbaum's book Operating systems): 'Permission is granted to
make a limited number of copies of this software for educational or
research purposes only' [end quote].

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mpledger@cti1.UUCP (Mark Pledger) (10/10/90)

reich@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dick Reichenbach) writes:

>About a month ago someone requested that MINIX be posted on c.b.i.p
>This was supported by many people in c.b.i.p.d, but nothing ever happened.
>Is something still being done, or has the project been dropped?

>Another question is, I thought MINIX was commercial software that is, of
>course, protected by copyright.
>Well, is it or is it not commercial software?

It is commercial software and at last count it costs $100.00.  I know of
a newer version that currently sells for approx. $150.00 or $200.00.  It
is a much more mature "mini" unix than coherent is.


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millerje@holst.tmc.edu (jeffrey scott miller) (10/11/90)

In article <1990Oct9.181210.14211@ioe.lon.ac.uk> teexnma@ioe.lon.ac.uk (Nino Margetic) writes:
>In article <5417@nisca.ircc.ohio-state.edu> reich@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Dick Reichenbach) writes:

[text about MINIX]

>>Well, is it or is it not commercial software?
>
>Yes, it would be nice to know something about that. Can anyone shed
>some light into the matter? BTW, as far as I know, MINIX is Copyright
>to Prentice-Hall Inc, and as it says in the comment of the source code
>(in the Tanenbaum's book Operating systems): 'Permission is granted to
>make a limited number of copies of this software for educational or
>research purposes only' [end quote].
>

MINIX is copyrighted.  The version that was to be placed on CBIP was a
demo version.  What the difference between the demo version and the "real"
version is, I don't know.

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jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) (10/11/90)

In article <10129@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> millerje@holst.tmc.edu (jeffrey scott miller) writes:
>
>   MINIX is copyrighted.  The version that was to be placed on CBIP was a
>   demo version.  What the difference between the demo version and the "real"
>   version is, I don't know.
>

Minix comes with it's own sources (programs AND os), the demo version
has only the binaries (not all of them, I think)


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mitchell (Bill Mitchell) (10/12/90)

I tried mail for this, but it bounced.

A week or so ago, davidsen@sixhub.UUCP posted that Andy 
(Andy Tanenbaum, I presume) had sent him a minix demo disk
as a 360k file, and that it hadn't been posted because it
needed a support program to write it on a disk in raw format
(ie. it's not a DOS disk).

Minix doesn't use DOS disks, but it does use DOS-formatted disks.
Seems it should be easy enough to read in the 360k raw disk
image with debug.com, and then write it out to raw disk sectors
on a floppy.

362496 bytes/diskette
--------------------- = 708 sectors/diskette (0x2c4, that is)
512 bytes/sector

>debug
-n image.bin
-l
-w cs:100 0 0 2c4
-q

Not having the demo image I haven't tried this, but it seems like
it should work.

MSR113@psuvm.psu.edu (Matt Richmond) (10/12/90)

In article <JPC.90Oct11093652@fogo.fctunl.rccn.pt>, jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose
Pina Coelho) says:
>
>>   MINIX is copyrighted.  The version that was to be placed on CBIP was a
>>   demo version.  What the difference between the demo version and the "real"
>>   version is, I don't know.
>>
>
>Minix comes with it's own sources (programs AND os), the demo version
>has only the binaries (not all of them, I think)

Could you please post where this demo version is available?  Is it
on an anonymous FTP site by any chance?  Thanks..

--Matt