mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) (12/24/90)
I have a suggestion for comp.binaries.ibm.pc. Since McAfee's SCAN, CLEANUP, and VSHIELD are now being packed with PKZIP with authentication flags set, and since it is so critical that these utilities are not mucked around with, and since some of us upload SCAN and CLEANUP to other BBS's from cbip after converting the files to ZIP format, how about allowing an exclusion to the bylaws of cbip to allow the posting of SCAN, CLEANUP, and VSHIELD in their original ZIP format? -- "THANK YOU FOR NOT /\ UUCP: ames att!pacbell! \ DISCUSSING THE OUTSIDE WORLD." |\/| pyramid sun!pacbell! => sactoh0!mholtz - Sign on nursing home, |/\| {ucbvax!}ucdavis!csusac! / "Bart vs. Thanksgiving" \/ INTERNET: mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US *BEEP!*
uchuck@pelham.med.unc.edu (Charles Bennett) (12/25/90)
In article <4525@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US> mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) writes: >I have a suggestion for comp.binaries.ibm.pc. Since McAfee's SCAN, >CLEANUP, and VSHIELD are now being packed with PKZIP with >authentication flags set, and since it is so critical that these >utilities are not mucked around with, and since some of us upload >SCAN and CLEANUP to other BBS's from cbip after converting the >files to ZIP format, how about allowing an exclusion to the bylaws >of cbip to allow the posting of SCAN, CLEANUP, and VSHIELD in their >original ZIP format? >-- I second that motion, any discussion?! Sorry but this is to convince our machine to send the response. :-( Chuck Bennett INTERNET: uchuck@med.unc.edu Medical Sciences Teaching Labs BITNET: uchuck@unc CB# 7520 University of NC PHONE: 919-966-1134(w) Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7520
w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) (12/25/90)
The time has come to reconsider the ZIP format as the preferred medium for distribution in comp.binaries.ibm.pc. Many of the authors of today's popular MS-DOS programs are distributing them in ZIP files that have the authentication verification feature, with the author's personal authentication number. The is the policy of SIMTEL20 *not* to repack ZIPs which contain authentication, in order that it may be retained to assure downloaders that these files are exactly as the author released them. Some recent programs noted to have this feature are: DSZ, ZCOMM, WHERE4x, PKLITE, PKZIP/UNZIP, the McAfee anti-viral programs (SCANV, CLEANP, NETSCAN, VSHIELD), and numerous others. One side benefit of switching to ZIP format would be a considerable reduction in the size of the files distributed by comp.binaries.ibm.pc. I have seen some ZOO files which were 300-350K reduced for a savings of 100K and sometimes as much as 180K when converted to ZIP format. What's different now from the last time we discussed ZIP for cbibmpc? The Info-ZIP group has released a freely distributable fast UNZIP for several flavors of Unix, VAX/VMS, IBM/CMS, and MTS - complete with portable C language source. A freely distributable ZIP is now being Beta tested by the same group. If you would like to be a part of this development effort, send email to Info-ZIP-Request@WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL asking that your name be added to the mailing list. I encourage all BBS SysOps to preserve the authentication on files so distributed by their authors. This is a big step towards the elimination of viruses and trojans. Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS, MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (12/27/90)
In article <4525@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US> mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) writes: | I have a suggestion for comp.binaries.ibm.pc. Since McAfee's SCAN, Currently I have been getting the new versions out with a few days (in some cases hours) of availability. I can do this because I have lots of shell scripts which handle zoo files, and a zoo archiver which runs on UNIX. We don't distribute the zip unarchiver, so of course someone will have to offer to mail a copy with instructions to everyone on earth who doesn't have it and can't figure out how to use it. I get about 40 requests a week for the stuff which goes out every other week if that gives you some idea what the volume would be. I'm spending 12-15 hours a week on this now, there are no more, what goes into supporting a new format for a small number of submissions comes out of posting other things. If people don't feel that the format I use is convenient, then I certainly am willing to stop posting antiviral software. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me