johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) (12/26/90)
I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the net. Could someone please point me in the right direction of an archive site ? Please reply by e-mail as I normally do not read this newsgroup. Thanks, John Fanelli johnfa@i88.isc.com
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (12/27/90)
In article <1990Dec26.130022.8077@i88.isc.com> johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) writes: | | I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like | to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software | package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the | net. I believe you are thinking of ProComm+, and the last time I checked it is most definitely not shareware. There is an older version which was shareware, 2.4.2, and someone may have that. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) (12/27/90)
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) writes: >In article <1990Dec26.130022.8077@i88.isc.com> johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) writes: >| >| I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like >| to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software >| package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the >| net. > I believe you are thinking of ProComm+, and the last time I checked it >is most definitely not shareware. There is an older version which was >shareware, 2.4.2, and someone may have that. >-- >bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) There is a shareware version of Procomm Plus 1.1 called the PC Plus Test Drive. It has most of the features of Procomm Plus, and it will help you decide whether or not you want to buy Procomm. You can find Procomm Plus 1.1 or the old Procomm 2.4.2 on Simtel in PD2:<MSDOS2.PROCOMM> - PCPLUSTD.ZIP - Procomm Plus Test Drive 1.1 Might I suggest you check out Telix version 3.12A, I think it's better than Procomm Plus, and is completely shareware. -- David Lemson U of Illinois Computing Services Student Consultant Internet : lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu University of Illinois, Urbana
hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) (12/27/90)
In article <2744@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: >In article <1990Dec26.130022.8077@i88.isc.com> johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) writes: >| I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like >| to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software >| package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the >| net. > I believe you are thinking of ProComm+, and the last time I checked it >is most definitely not shareware. There is an older version which was >shareware, 2.4.2, and someone may have that. The latest shareware version is 2.4.3 and is available at least here at uwasa.fi (128.214.12.3). But I, too would rather prefer Telix or Telemate (Telemate personally). -- == Harri Valkama, University of Vaasa, Finland =========================== P.O. Box 700, 65101 VAASA, Finland (tel:+358 61 248426 fax:+358 61 248465) email: hv@garbo.uwasa.fi hv@nic.funet.fi harri.valkama@wmac00.uwasa.fi Anonymous ftp chyde.uwasa.fi (128.214.12.3) & nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100)
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (12/27/90)
In article <1990Dec26.130022.8077@i88.isc.com> johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) writes: > > I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like > to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software > package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the > net. Could someone please point me in the right direction of an Procomm Plus is a commercial product, but you can get Procomm on the net. At uwasa.fi archives see the following files in the /pc/pd2 directory. prcm243.zip Procomm shareware version 2.4.3 prcm243d.zip Procomm document prcm243u.zip Procomm utilities (also see /pc/ts/tspfon29.arc) I recommend that you also take a look at Telix. Same directory. Both are good products. > archive site ? Please reply by e-mail as I normally do not read > this newsgroup. : > John Fanelli An extract from /pc/ts/tsfaq15.arc: 2. ***** Q: Why "(Please) reply by email, I don't usually read this group" (actually a demand rather than a question) gets flamed? A: This is basically an impolite way of formulating such a request. If one is interested enough to post to a group, one should also be prepared to follow up the group. Intended or not, the attitude this (email-I-don't-read) decree easily conveys is "I don't usually care for this wimpy group, but this time you are allowed to be of service to my exalted person". What you should do, if following the group is genuinely problematic for you (for cost or other reasons), is to offer to make a summary of the replies. The liturgy often used for this is "Please reply by email. If there is sufficient interest, I'll summarize". (This alternative is often advocated also because it is supposed to cut down the traffic). You might even state why following a group is problematic for you, but this is up to you. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (12/27/90)
In article <1990Dec27.052414.3798@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: ... much deleted ... >There is a shareware version of Procomm Plus 1.1 called the PC Plus >Test Drive. It has most of the features of Procomm Plus, and it >will help you decide whether or not you want to buy Procomm. You >can find Procomm Plus 1.1 or the old Procomm 2.4.2 on Simtel in >PD2:<MSDOS2.PROCOMM> - PCPLUSTD.ZIP - Procomm Plus Test Drive 1.1 ... rest deleted ... Just for general information. The PC Plus Test Drive has the same stipulation problem as has the original PKZIP (for a different reason). It is not for distribution outside North America. I am just passing the information. That the stipulation is both ridiculous and impossible to implement is another story. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
hagins@gamecock.rtp.dg.com (Jody Hagins) (12/27/90)
In article <2744@sixhub.UUCP>, davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) writes: |> In article <1990Dec26.130022.8077@i88.isc.com> johnfa@clai.i88.isc.com (John Fanelli) writes: |> | |> | I recently got a modem and an American XT IBM compatible. I'd like |> | to use it to dial into work. I heard that there is a good software |> | package called PC+ by Procomm and that it is available through the |> | net. |> |> I believe you are thinking of ProComm+, and the last time I checked it |> is most definitely not shareware. There is an older version which was |> shareware, 2.4.2, and someone may have that. Also, there is PC+ TD, which is a test drive version of PC+ |> -- |> bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) |> sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX |> moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list |> "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me |> -- Jody Hagins hagins@gamecock.rtp.dg.com Data General Corp. 62 Alexander Dr. RTP, N.C. 27709 (919) 248-6035
berger@iboga (Mike Berger) (12/28/90)
lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: >Might I suggest you check out Telix version 3.12A, I think it's >better than Procomm Plus, and is completely shareware. *---- In what way is it better? I tried it, and found the terminal emulation to be as inadequate as ProComm's. It had fewer file transfer protocols supported. -- Mike Berger Department of Statistics, University of Illinois AT&TNET 217-244-6067 Internet berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (12/31/90)
In article <1990Dec27.180542.1222@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@iboga (Mike Berger) writes: >lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes: >>Might I suggest you check out Telix version 3.12A, I think it's >>better than Procomm Plus, and is completely shareware. > >In what way is it better? I tried it, and found the terminal emulation to be >as inadequate as ProComm's. It had fewer file transfer protocols supported. 21. ***** Q: Which is better, Procomm Plus or Telix? A: Both are excellent telecommunications programs. I won't try to answer in any absolute terms, but tell some of my subjective observations, since I have used both quite a lot. I am speaking of Procomm+ version 1.1A and Telix 3.12 (neither quite the latest). Procomm+ is a fully commercial program while Telix is shareware. (There is an earlier shareware Procomm [version 2.4.3]. Both the shareware programs are available from uwasa.fi archives /pc/pd2 directory. The shareware Procomm is not in the same league with Procomm+ and Telix). Procomm+ comes with a manual, and there is literature on Procomm+ while Telix documents come as a file in the shareware distribution. I have tried the user support of both, with slightly discouraging results. In the case of Procomm+ I asked about the possibility of a two-way translation table, but the response was a polite no without any useful suggestions. In the case of Telix, I returned a faulty shareware disk, and had no reaction at all. On the other hand, both are such good products, that I haven't really needed the support. Procomm+ and Telix both have a useful command language. Procomm's is annoyingly sluggish since it is interpreter while Telix sports a C-like Salt compiler. Procomm's aspect command language is easier to use, while Telix's Salt command language is really powerful. Procomm+ command files can be invoked from a menu. In Telix this very convenient option is missing. Under difficult conditions with a slow machine plus a fast modem Telix behaves much better. I've even noted circumstances where Telix is the only working choice of the two, because Procomm+ cannot always cope with the load. Admittedly, Telix has fewer file transfer protocols than Procomm+, BUT this is more than amply compensated by the fact that Telix has an unbuilt Zmodem protocol. Neither has a sliding Kermit. The translation tables of both programs cause headaches to users needing some 8-bit characters as we Finns do. Procomm+ does not have an outgoing translation table at all. Telix does, but it gets tangled in ansi graphics when A with double dots is translated. Personally, I prefer Procomm's concise call logging to Telix's fuller but incoherent call logging. This is very subjective but of the two the "feel" of the user interface in Telix is more user friendly than that of Procomm+. In particular, Telix has an automatic starting of downloads. Procomm+ has a superior host mode compared to Telix. Yes, I know that there are external host modes for Telix, such as host44.zip, but I've never managed to make it work even in a selftest. Incidentally, the host mode of shareware Procomm is better left alone. They frequently crash the machine. Another thing is that Procomm+ host mode shell to dos option also does this. If you use Procomm or Procomm+ you might be interested in more information given in /pc/ts/tspfon29.arc. At the moment I have settled to Telix for calling to BBSes, to Procomm+ when I need the host mode (and MsKermit when I connect remotely to uwasa.fi, because MsKermit has clearly the best VT102 emulation of the three). ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun