alt@cbnewsd.att.com (art.l.todesco) (12/28/90)
I vote for ZIP. Its time has come.
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (12/31/90)
In article <1990Dec28.151755.10172@cbnewsd.att.com> alt@cbnewsd.att.com (art.l.todesco) writes: | I vote for ZIP. Its time has come. We've been through this before. The voters all agreed that a protocol needs to be portable (DOS, UNIX, and VMS minimum) and free (rather than shareware) for this group. So far I see zoo and lharc, with a useful UNIX zip a long time away. The UNIX zipper is not at a state to use for production yet, for speed or reliability. lharc runs on DOS and UNIX and could be ported to other systems. The new zoo, which should be better compression than zip is coming along nicely as far as I'm told. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me
w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) (12/31/90)
In article <2767@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: > We've been through this before. The voters all agreed that a protocol >needs to be portable (DOS, UNIX, and VMS minimum) and free (rather than >shareware) for this group. So far I see zoo and lharc, with a useful >UNIX zip a long time away. The readers of comp.binaries.ibm.pc don't need a Unix ZIP. Only the moderator needs that, and you have a DOS emulator/window (whatever it's called) which lets you run PKZIP on your Unix box. Versions of a free UNZIP exist for DOS, UNIX, VMS, MTS, CMS and CP/M. All are available from SIMTEL20. Let's not turn this into another PK bashing session. He's not involved. ZIP is a public domain archiving format. The Info-ZIP group is working hard on the project to port UNZIP and ZIP to many platforms. Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS, MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
dale@NCoast.ORG (Dale Smith) (12/31/90)
In article <2767@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: > The new zoo, which should be better compression than zip is >coming along nicely as far as I'm told. > Where can I find out about this new zoo? dale -- Dale P. Smith dale@ncoast.org dale@harco3.uucp uunet!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ncoast!dale uunet!aablue!fmsystm!harco3!dale
mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Mark A. Holtz) (01/01/91)
In article <4475@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) writes: > In article <2767@sixhub.UUCP> davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (bill davidsen) writes: > > We've been through this before. The voters all agreed that a protocol > >needs to be portable (DOS, UNIX, and VMS minimum) and free (rather than > >shareware) for this group. So far I see zoo and lharc, with a useful > >UNIX zip a long time away. > > The readers of comp.binaries.ibm.pc don't need a Unix ZIP. Only the > moderator needs that, and you have a DOS emulator/window (whatever > it's called) which lets you run PKZIP on your Unix box. In all fairness, I only stated SCAN, VSHIELD, and CLEAN should be covered under ZIP, not because of the better compression, but because the files now are authenticated by PKZIP, and the documentation specifically states that if the authentication flags do not show up while unpacking the files, and McAfee's associates number does not show up, do not use the files. I am not knocking davidson's work on c.b.i.p. He provides a valuable service, and he is extremely helpful when providing the latest copies of virus scanning software. While I do realize that the SCAN files are directly from McAfee's BBS, I upload said files to a local BBS, and I don't want a conflict between I am right, yet the documentation says something else. I therefore propose that any virus-scanning from McAfee's BBS be uploaded to cbip in their original, ZIPped form, and all other postings be continued in the ZOO format already used in cbip. Happy New Year! -- "THANK YOU FOR NOT /\ UUCP: ames att!pacbell! \ DISCUSSING THE OUTSIDE WORLD." |\/| pyramid sun!pacbell! => sactoh0!mholtz - Sign on nursing home, |/\| {ucbvax!}ucdavis!csusac! / "Bart vs. Thanksgiving" \/ INTERNET: mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US *BEEP!*
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (01/02/91)
In article <1990Dec31.143159.11443@NCoast.ORG> dale@NCoast.ORG (Dale Smith) writes: | Where can I find out about this new zoo? When it's released you will have a hard time NOT finding out about it. It will be posted here in binary form, and (probably) once to alt.sources for final testing, then the production version will be posted to source.misc. Until then be patient and good things will come to those who wait. -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc and 80386 mailing list "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me