tumavitc@buster.cps.msu.edu (Jeffrey J Tumavitch) (01/23/91)
In article <29520@usc> phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: >Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases >for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, >rm and others, but no alias yet. >Any super programmers wanna do it? > >Chris >phuocle@skat.usc.edu A really nice program that provides alias-like abilities is "ced" put out by pc-magazine a while ago ... it should be available out there somewhere. Tumavitch@buster.cps.msu.edu
phil@cs.mcgill.ca (Philip LOCONG) (01/23/91)
There is 4DOS that has aliases as well as many other features. It's very well know, I think, you should be able to get it almost anywhere. It's shareware. Phil
belt@freyr.pttrnl.nl (Evert van de Belt) (01/23/91)
phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: >Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases >for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, >rm and others, but no alias yet. >Any super programmers wanna do it? What about CED or 4DOS? I'm using 4DOS with aliases. It's great. Evert
ralphs@sumax.seattleu.edu (Ralph Sims) (01/23/91)
phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: > Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases > for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, > rm and others, but no alias yet. Folks that are interested in this should look at replacing command.com with 4DOS, which provdies aliases, commandline editing, environment manipulations, and much more. In the meantime, aliases can be provided by batch files. I have seen a program that provided aliasing commands on a limited basis, perhaps on chyde.uwasa.fi. -- halcyon!ralphs@sumax.seattleu.edu (Ralph Sims) ralphs@halcyon.uucp or ralphs@halcyon.wa.com The 23:00 News - Seattle, WA USA +1 206 292.9048 (a Waffle Iron)
sonny@charybdis.harris-atd.com (Bob Davis) (01/23/91)
In article <1991Jan23.081313.4221@cs.mcgill.ca> phil@cs.mcgill.ca (Philip LOCONG) writes: >There is 4DOS that has aliases as well as many other features. It's very >well know, I think, you should be able to get it almost anywhere. It's >shareware. > 4DOS is dynamite. Also, there is the older CED by Chris Dunford which is free. It has the alias (called "synonym") function, as well as command recall/edit and several other things. CED is one of my all-time favorite DOS Freeware programs. It is Excellent. Available at SIMTEL and at many other fine archives around the globe. _____________________________________________________________________________ Bob Davis, UofALA alum \\ INTERNET: sonny@trantor.harris-atd.com | _ _ | Harris Corporation, ESS \\ UUCP: ...!uunet!x102a!trantor!sonny |_| |_| | | Advanced Technology Dept.\\ AETHER: K4VNO |==============|_/\/\/\|_| PO Box 37, MS 3A/1912 \\ VOICE: (407) 727-5886 | I SPEAK ONLY | |_| |_| | Melbourne, FL 32902 \\ FAX: (407) 729-2537 | FOR MYSELF. |_________|
toma@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Tom Almy) (01/24/91)
In article <29520@usc> phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: >Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases >for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, >rm and others, but no alias yet. >Any super programmers wanna do it? No reason to. There are already several programs that meet this need. In increasing cost: Anarkey -- provides command history, better command line editing, and aliasing. Shareware (I believe about $20-30). 4DOS -- A command.com replacement with the above plus a much more rich set of commands, on-line help, takes less memory... Shareware, $50. MKS Toolkit -- Provides a UNIX-like environment, including Korn shell, which has aliases. Also has vi and awk. Commercial $250. -- Tom Almy toma@sail.labs.tek.com <<< Note new address Standard Disclaimers Apply
thoger@solan.unit.no (Terje Th|gersen) (01/24/91)
In article <29520@usc> phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, rm and others, but no alias yet. Any super programmers wanna do it? Chris phuocle@skat.usc.edu Check out CMDEDIT, recently put out by PC-Magazine. This is almost a "tcsh" for dos, giving aliases, file name completion, pusd/popd etc, etc.. A bit silly, as all commands gotten from stdin end up in the same buffer. (that is, all commands you've typed in 'debug' end up in the same buffer as the commands you've typed on the commandline. A by-product of this is that all programs that use stdin get the filename completion etc..) Other programs to do "aliasing" : CED - This is the original. The best until CMDEDIT came along, in my opinion. Uses 12k mem. when whittled down as far as it can go. COMMANDO - Cute, uses less mem, buggy. Has file name completion. ALIAS - Also by PC magazine. Limited. There's one more, but I didn't keep it for very long since it's nagware, requiring you to type in a random, 10-digit number on startup. Gets tiring, for a program to be loaded from autoexec.bat.... All programs found on simtel / wustl. CMDEDIT / Alias are freeware, the other shareware. (or atleast that's what I seem to recall.. :-)) regards, -Terje -- ____________________________________________________________________________ thoger@solan.unit.no | Institute of Physical Chemistry THOGER AT NORUNIT.BITNET | Div. of Computer Assisted Instrumental Analysis | Norwegian Institute of Technology
joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt) (01/25/91)
There's a shareware program from a few years back call DOSEDIT which provides alias support as a secondary feature. It's primary purpose is to allow command history scrollback and editting. Works great. I'd be lost without either feature anymore. Suspect it's still bopping around on the bulletin boards somewhere. I think I got my original copy from PC-SIG in the Bay Area. Joe Eckardt Logic Automation, Inc lauto!joee@cse.ogi.edu ,or ...!uunet!ogicse!lauto!joee -- Joe Eckardt Logic Automation, Inc (503)690-6900 lauto!joee@cse.ogi.edu ,or
jdudeck@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (John R. Dudeck) (01/27/91)
In an article mikek@col.hp.com (Mike Karin) wrote: >Another nice program that was published in PC Magazine is ALIAS. It is [] >I am using Alias and it works great. I have tried every alias and command-line editor that I have gotten my hands on, and I am using alias from PCmag now. But I am not happy with its command line recall for several reasons: 1. If you re-execute a previous command, it puts another instance of that command line in the stack. It is inconvenient and has no useful purpose to have multiple copies of the same command line in the stack. 2. The stack does not wrap around, so that when you get to the end, you have to step all the way back the other way to get to an earlier command. 3. It always adds edited commands at the end of the stack, rather than inserting them at the place where you are currently working. I used to use ndosedit, which did these things the way I like, but I found that it uses FCB's instead of file handles, and leaves them open forever after. To me that is a sign of trouble to come, since it was obviously written in the days of DOS 1.x. -- John Dudeck "Communication systems are jdudeck@Polyslo.CalPoly.Edu inherently complex". ESL: 62013975 Tel: 805-545-9549 -- Ron Oliver
roeve@cip-s02.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Roevenich) (01/28/91)
phuocle@skat.usc.edu (Christopher Le) writes: >Wouldn't it be nice if someone could write a program that can do aliases >for the ibm machines? I know people have wrote programs for ls, more, cat, >rm and others, but no alias yet. >Any super programmers wanna do it? There is a program with this feature and a lot more... it is called 4Dos and replaces COMMAND.COM totally. Very nice, very compatible. I use it all the time. It's SHAREWARE as well... Greetings Michael Internet: roeve@rwthi3.informatik.rwth-aachen.de UUCP: ...unido!rwthi3!roeve FIDO: 2:242/42.1 (Michael Roevenich)
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (01/29/91)
In article <1991Jan24.185021.11667@cabezon.uucp> joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt) writes: >There's a shareware program from a few years back call DOSEDIT which provides >alias support as a secondary feature. It's primary purpose is to allow command >history scrollback and editting. Works great. I'd be lost without either It is contained in /pc/pcmag/vol5n03.zip of PC-Magazine's utilities, and is called dos-edit. Personally I prefer /pc/pd2/ced10da.zip of these two early command line editors, partly because I run into compatibility problems with dos-edit on a laptop I was using. If you don't find vol5n03.zip in our /pc/pcmag directory, try /pc/stash where I stash stuff temporarily until my fellow moderator Harri Valkama has had time to allocate the files to their proper directories. (He is very busy at the moment tuning garbo.uwasa.fi.) ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) (01/30/91)
In article <1991Jan24.185021.11667@cabezon.uucp> joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt) writes: >There's a shareware program from a few years back call DOSEDIT which provides >alias support as a secondary feature. It's primary purpose is to allow command >history scrollback and editting. Works great. I'd be lost without either I use DOSEDIT all the time, but it has one serious flaw - it is not able to properly handle characters above 128 on the command line. -frisk Fridrik Skulason University of Iceland | Technical Editor of the Virus Bulletin (UK) | Reserved for future expansion E-Mail: frisk@rhi.hi.is Fax: 354-1-28801 |
einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) (01/30/91)
In article <2701@krafla.rhi.hi.is> frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes: >I use DOSEDIT all the time, but it has one serious flaw - it is not able to >properly handle characters above 128 on the command line. > (YALM8BP) Yet another 'lets mask the 8th bit' program!!! :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( -- Internet: einari@rhi.hi.is | "Just give me my command line and drag UUCP: ..!mcsun!isgate!rhi!einari | the GUIs to the waste basket!!!!" Surgeon Generals warning: Masking the 8th bit can seriously damage your brain!!
asphgcm@cidsv01.cid.aes.doe.CA (Claude Mercier) (01/31/91)
In article <2701@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes: |> In article <1991Jan24.185021.11667@cabezon.uucp> joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt) writes: |> >There's a shareware program from a few years back call DOSEDIT which provides |> >alias support as a secondary feature. It's primary purpose is to allow command |> >history scrollback and editting. Works great. I'd be lost without either |> |> I use DOSEDIT all the time, but it has one serious flaw - it is not able to |> properly handle characters above 128 on the command line. |> |> -frisk |> Tsk tsk tsk !!! This, Fridrik, is a DOS flaw. DOS's command line buffer is 128 bytes long. Therefore, it is useless to feed it with a command longer than 128 characters. Just worth my 2 cents. -- Claude Mercier (asphgcm@cid.aes.doe.CA) Disclaimer: "I'm not God, so I may be wrong sometimes ..." Quote: "Don't listen to what I say. I never do." -- Doctor Who Quote: "Tools for power are just that, TOOLS." -- Me. (Want a list? :-)
frisk@rhi.hi.is (Fridrik Skulason) (02/01/91)
In article <1991Jan30.171009.16994@cid.aes.doe.CA> asphgcm@cidsv01.cid.aes.doe.CA (Claude Mercier) writes: >|> I use DOSEDIT all the time, but it has one serious flaw - it is not able to >|> properly handle characters above 128 on the command line. >|> >Tsk tsk tsk !!! > >This, Fridrik, is a DOS flaw. DOS's command line buffer is 128 bytes long. >Therefore, it is useless to feed it with a command longer than 128 >characters. I said "characters above 128" (well, above 127 would have been more accurate) that is characters vith values 128,129,...255 - all the accented and graphic characters in the character set. DOSEDIT is yet another American program, whose author ignores the fact that the rest of the world uses 8-bit characters. Any program which does not properly handle the upper half of the character set is pretty useless. -frisk Fridrik Skulason University of Iceland | Technical Editor of the Virus Bulletin (UK) | Reserved for future expansion E-Mail: frisk@rhi.hi.is Fax: 354-1-28801 |