[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] More on Telemate

wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales) (01/22/91)

In article <1991Jan18.212525.4574@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
gave a short review of Telemate 2.11.

I tried out Telemate last week.  I actually liked the dialog-box-based
option stuff.  But I did find a few things I didn't like as much as the
corresponding features of Telix.

Telemate's script language lacks some key facilities.  There is no way
to get the actual baud rate of the connection.  Reading from the dialing
directory entry currently in use is painful; although a "toolbox" script
routine is provided to do this by reading the dialing directory as a
text file, it doesn't give access to all the fields, it doesn't give you
the "memo" field (which is stored in a separate file), and it won't work
at all if you switch out of the default dialing directory.

There are some problems with the VT102 emulation.  It changes to "white
on black" after the sequence "ESC [ m", regardless of the default color
scheme.  When a "scrolling region" is specified, line feeds below the
scrolling region cause scrolling within the region -- a bug which also
exists in Telix, but reportedly not in Procomm.  And the default VT102
key map file maps backspace (both the left-arrow key and control-H) into
DEL -- leaving the user with no way at all to send ^H.

I pointed out these problems to the author of Telemate.  He says the
baud rate will be accessible in a future version of the program, via a
new QUERY script function.  The last I heard from him, he had not com-
mitted to acknowledging the other problems as bugs in need of fixing.

So, although Telemate's dialog-box structure and its ability to do local
editing concurrently with an upload or download are nice, for the time
being at least I plan to stick with Telix.  When the next version of
Telemate comes out, I might reconsider this decision.

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phil@cs.mcgill.ca (Philip LOCONG) (01/22/91)

In a previous article:
> ... 
> Telemate's script language lacks some key facilities. 
> ...
> There are some problems with the VT102 emulation.
> ...

I mostly use Telemate to login to my computer account at the University,
so I don't need a powerful script language. While I am logged in, I do a
lot of stuff and the easy access windows and "cut and paste" are really
useful to me. I also set my screen to 43 lines which gives me more room
for the windows. For someone who spends most of his time connected to
the same computer, I would definitely recommend Telemate.
I hope they fix the VT102 bugs, it seems so easy to do (if you have the
source...).

brian@cvl.umd.edu (Brian Miller) (01/23/91)

I recently grabbed a copy of Telemate to replace my aging
Procomm2.4.2 (I really wanted a 43-line display).  Overall,
I like the package, but I'm having some severe problems
with file transfers.

I've had no problems in transfering files using the generic
Xmodem download.  However, every attempt I've made to download
using any protocol with a 1K block size has bombed.  I've
fiddled with settings galore on both ends (both with rzsz
and some old Xmodem package on our system that has support
for 1K Xmodem), and nothing I do seems to work.  The
first packet will transfer, then everything goes to hell.
The logfile on the host side indicates that my system has
stopped responding.

Besides this niggling little problem, I enjoy Telemate.  The
cut and paste feature is extremely handy, as is the ability
to view/edit files during file transfers.  But, since a lot
of my connect time is spent doing file transfers, looks like
I'm gonna have to go back to Procomm (or maybe Telix...I've
heard some good things about that package too).

So why am I posting this drivel you might ask?  Well, I'm
hoping that either someone has an idea about where things
might be screwed, or can confirm that Telemate has problems.
I seriously doubt the latter, but you can never be sure.
Email or posted replies are fine, I can usually keep up with 
this group.  Thanks!

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orenalex@bimacs.BITNET (oren alex) (02/08/91)

Hello,
I use telemate in 28-line mode to get a bigger screen
however, this screws up the hebrew font (ASCII 128 & up)
Solutions anyone ?

Thanx,
        Alex