[comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d] SERIOUS PROBLEM WITH ELVIS! :

jstanley@uafhp.uark.edu (Michael Stanley) (02/07/91)

Please someone help!  :(  I had my machine lock up WHILE using elvis
and now everytime I try to start it with an argument filename referring
to a file which ALREADY exists, it says that file is "busy".  It says
this for every file on my hard disk.  I use a 386SX IBM PC/AT clone.
I always load share into memory due to the fact that I have a 80meg
hard disk.  I figure its a problem with share, but I have NO IDEA
what to do or where to go for help on this...  Anyone?  Please???

   send help to

     jstanley@uafhp.uark.edu

   thanks!  thanks!  thanks!!!

mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) (02/07/91)

In article <5975@uafhp.uark.edu> jstanley@uafhp.uark.edu (Michael Stanley) writes:
>
>Please someone help!  :(  I had my machine lock up WHILE using elvis
>and now everytime I try to start it with an argument filename referring
>to a file which ALREADY exists, it says that file is "busy".  It says

Just a shot in the dark:  did you run chkdsk /f  ?   

You might also look for a temp file.  I've not use Elvis, but I *think* it uses
a temp file, so you might need to erase that....
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norlin@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin) (02/07/91)

mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) writes:

>In article <5975@uafhp.uark.edu> jstanley@uafhp.uark.edu (Michael Stanley) writes:
>>
>>Please someone help!  :(  I had my machine lock up WHILE using elvis
>>and now everytime I try to start it with an argument filename referring
>>to a file which ALREADY exists, it says that file is "busy".  It says

>Just a shot in the dark:  did you run chkdsk /f  ?   

>You might also look for a temp file.  I've not use Elvis, but I *think* it uses
>a temp file, so you might need to erase that....

Yes, Elvis uses a file in the directory /tmp, and you need to delete it to
re-edit the file (or perhaps you can do vi -r, but I've never tried it).

fredch@starlite.intel.com (02/08/91)

Since I've answered this privately for several people, I'll post a msg
this time.  This "feature" of elvis, along with a couple others, is one
of the warts on elvis.  The solution is to look for where your temp files
are going and them remove "elv*".

Does it slightly irritate anyone else that elvis, on ^D (ctrl-D), does not
paint to the end of the line?  Yucko when it's background is not your normal
background color.  A REAL irritation is that the RE that I use in searches
("/" or "?") is not known by ":g//p" or any other ":g//".  This necessary
behavior for compatibility with vi is missing.
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mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) (02/09/91)

In article <1991Feb7.165557.18939@intelhf.hf.intel.com> fredch@starlite.intel.com writes:
<Does it slightly irritate anyone else that elvis, on ^D (ctrl-D), does not
<paint to the end of the line?  Yucko when it's background is not your normal
<background color. ...

This works fine on my system, but not when I have nnansi.sys installed.
Could that be the problem here?
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ccastd2@prism.gatech.EDU (Dale Phurrough) (02/09/91)

mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes:

>In article <1991Feb7.165557.18939@intelhf.hf.intel.com> fredch@starlite.intel.com writes:
><Does it slightly irritate anyone else that elvis, on ^D (ctrl-D), does not
><paint to the end of the line?  Yucko when it's background is not your normal
><background color. ...

>This works fine on my system, but not when I have nnansi.sys installed.
>Could that be the problem here?
>-- 

Nnansi.sys is the cause of many a problem.  Vansi is the same.  Face it...
Standard ansi.sys is the ONLY one that works ALL the time with EVERYthing.
One thing I have found that works is the program called "thefast" which
speed's up screen writes.  Try it out...it works well!


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ECSGRT@lure.latrobe.edu.au (Geoffrey Tobin, Electronic Engineering) (02/09/91)

In article <1991Feb7.032310.28563@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, norlin@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Norman Lin) writes:
> mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) writes:
> 
>>In article <5975@uafhp.uark.edu> jstanley@uafhp.uark.edu (Michael Stanley) writes:
>>>
>>>Please someone help!  :(  I had my machine lock up WHILE using elvis
>>>and now everytime I try to start it with an argument filename referring
>>>to a file which ALREADY exists, it says that file is "busy".  It says
> 
>>Just a shot in the dark:  did you run chkdsk /f  ?   
> 
>>You might also look for a temp file.  I've not use Elvis, but I *think* it uses
>>a temp file, so you might need to erase that....
> 
> Yes, Elvis uses a file in the directory /tmp, and you need to delete it to
> re-edit the file (or perhaps you can do vi -r, but I've never tried it).

Dear Michael, Mike, Norman and all Elvis fans,

1.  Michael:  the problem occurs with my 21MB HD, also.
2.  Mike and Norman:  "vi -r" doesn't exist with Elvis 1.3 or 1.4,
      it is replaced by the program "virec", which you should have
      unpacked source and/or binary for, with Elvis.  Running virec
      clears up the problem.

Geoffrey Tobin            ecsgrt@lu.latrobe.edu.au
Electronic Engineering
LaTrobe University
Bundoora VIC 3083
Australia

davet@cbnewsj.att.com (Dave Tutelman) (02/11/91)

In article <21610@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastd2@prism.gatech.EDU (Dale Phurrough) writes:
>
>Nnansi.sys is the cause of many a problem.  Vansi is the same.  Face it...
>Standard ansi.sys is the ONLY one that works ALL the time with EVERYthing.

Sorry, but definitely not true!  Standard ANSI.SYS does NOT work with
Stevie (and lots of other things, I'd suspect).  It doesn't do the full
set of ANSI escape sequences.  I forget at the moment which one is missing
from ANSI.SYS that Stevie uses.

If you're having trouble with NNANSI, I recall a discussion a few months
ago that concluded that you should try NNANSI without the "fast mode".
The high-speed scrolling used by nnansi doesn't work with everything, but
the normal-speed operation seems quite compatible.  (Certainly known to
work with Elvis.)

Hope this helps.
Dave

rgc@raybed2.msd.ray.com (RICK CARLE) (02/11/91)

In article <21610@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccastd2@prism.gatech.EDU (Dale Phurrough) writes:
> mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes:
> >In article <1991Feb7.165557.18939@intelhf.hf.intel.com> fredch@starlite.intel.com writes:
> ><Does it slightly irritate anyone else that elvis, on ^D (ctrl-D), does not
> ><paint to the end of the line?...
> >This works fine on my system, but not when I have nnansi.sys installed.
> 
> Nnansi.sys is the cause of many a problem.  Vansi is the same.  Face it...
> Standard ansi.sys is the ONLY one that works ALL the time with EVERYthing.

I've tried nansi v3.0 with elvis and have had no problems.
Also, it was previously posted here that presetting nnansi (v.8/90) to the
slow mode would eliminate nnansi/elvis incompatibilities.  (I haven't
tried it yet.)

	Rick Carle
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fredch@starlite.intel.com (02/12/91)

fgc>fredch@starlite.intel.com writes:
fgc>Does it slightly irritate anyone else that elvis, on ^D (ctrl-D), does not
fgc>paint to the end of the line?  Yucko when it's background is not your normal
fgc>background color. ...

ml> mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes:
ml> This works fine on my system, but not when I have nnansi.sys installed.
ml> Could that be the problem here?

dp> ccastd2@prism.gatech.EDU (Dale Phurrough) writes:
dp> Nnansi.sys is the cause of many a problem.  Vansi is the same.  Face it...
dp> Standard ansi.sys is the ONLY one that works ALL the time with EVERYthing.
dp> One thing I have found that works is the program called "thefast" which
dp> speed's up screen writes.  Try it out...it works well!

To follow-up:  I run the ansi.sys that comes with DOS 3.3.  I have nansi.sys
and nnansi.sys but do not use them.  If I find "thefast", I'll try it.
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mlord@bnr-rsc.UUCP (Mark Lord) (02/12/91)

In article <21610@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccastd2@prism.gatech.EDU (Dale Phurrough) writes:
>
>Nnansi.sys is the cause of many a problem.  Vansi is the same.  Face it...
>Standard ansi.sys is the ONLY one that works ALL the time with EVERYthing.
>One thing I have found that works is the program called "thefast" which
>speed's up screen writes.  Try it out...it works well!

How interesting.  I guess there must be a lot of system variance on this one..
vansi is the ONLY one I have found that works with everything on MY system.
Standard "ansi.sys" does not support reverse scrolling and some other goodies.
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