ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (03/01/91)
Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the download list is based on samples taken at 20 minute intervals on the access time changes of the directories. Thus the statistics is quite approximate. The list is cut off at 10 downloads. The original list contained 1256 items. The approximate total number of downloads was 5828 files. The files with no description are either no longer on garbo.uwasa.fi lists (they were mainly old versions) or there is some technical problem with the description. 81 lha210e.exe LHa compression for .lzh files v 2.10 English version 73 scanv74b.zip McAfee's fabulous virus scanner 50 clean74b.zip Clean-up virus remover (run SCANV55 or greater) 6.8v74- 42 ftpsites.lst Ftp sites for anonymous login (1 Feb 1991) 42 blast.zoo Moraff's Blast I v1.5 (HERC/CGA/EGA/VGA/SVGA) (great) 38 lha205e.exe LHa v2.05 test version; better than LHarc 37 vshld74b.zip VSHIELD TSR 3.0v74-B - protects against known virus (wa 37 quadvga.lzh Quadralien, game, (req's EGA/VGA) (good) 32 sg.zoo The Game StarGoose from the binaries (VGA?) 32 arj100.exe An .arj archiver from Robert Kung. 28 casetool.zip Casetool incl. graphics & drawing etc (huge; 3.7M) 28 batchftp102.t Z Get files automatically by FTP, a definite must! 27 nktools.zip Source to some useful TP (4.0 & 5.0) units 26 vcopy74.zip Virus-protected copy 0.5v74 by McAfee 26 tp6map.zip Map of 500 procedure entry points in the TP6 24 4dos302.zip 4dos v3.02 command.com replacement (good) 23 pkz110eu.exe PKZIP/PKUNZIP "Euroversion" with no encryption 23 netscn74.zip NETSCAN network viruscan v74; scans for known virus str 23 hydk420.zip Windows aware disk cache (replace smartdrv.sys) (great) 22 harri.gif me, myself and I ... 22 chess101.zip GNUCHESS (3.1) for Windows v1.01 (good) 21 piclb182.zip PicLab v1.82; manipulate gif pictures (also SVGA) 20 zoo201.exe Zoo packing/unpacking facility from Rahul Dhesi 19 lh113de.com LHarc (un)compressions for .lzh files; v1.13d 19 36psfnts.zip 36 Type 1 fonts (ATM) 18 winsdl.txt Microsoft Supplemental Drivers Library info 18 bananoid.zip Bananoid, game, (req's VGA) (nice) 18 4dos302u.zip 4dos v3.02a update package (with doc) 17 pak251.exe NoGate (un)packing for .pak, .arc and .zip files 17 gif2bmp.zip GIF to BMP v1.0 17 cshw823a.zip CompuShow GIF viewer v8.23a (w SVGA) (good) 17 comic.zip Run through the scenes 16 unzip401.tar. Unzip unpacking for Unix 16 ftp.man Beginner's Guide to ftp 16 fonts.lzh A large number of PS screen fonts (great) 16 arc602.exe SEA's packing/unpacking system for .arc files. 15 zm301.zip Zip Manager v3.01 (good) 15 winpoker.zip Windows Poker! v1.0 15 vgif40.zip VGA gif picture showing program 15 tvga2b.zip Trident Windows drivers v2.0b (Dec 90) 15 st22.zip ScreamTracker v2.2 plays Amiga SoundTracker sounds (goo 15 simibm.arc List of files in Simtel20, 26-Feb-91 15 rtsystem.zip Real-time raytracing demo (a moon orbiting a planet) (n 15 icondr12.zip IconDraw v1.2 15 gifpoems.lzh GIF, art & poems 15 giflib11.zip GIF library v1.1 (impressive) (w TC) 15 ftpsites.arc A list of ftp sites by Jon Granrose, 1-Jan-91 15 dezip.exe DeZip v2.0; ZIP-extractor 15 alwin.zip Active Life v1.1 time management system (good) 14 vuimg295.zip GIF/TIFF viewer v2.95 (Herc,EGA,(S)/(E)VGA) 14 tm211-1.zip TeleMate v2.11 (incl. multitasking kernel) (good) 14 snarf.zoo Snarf v2.02 (EGA) arcade games (neat) 14 lha205j.exe 14 icon330.zip Icon Library; a large collection of good quality icons 14 dsz1216.zip Z-modem file transfer protocol release 16-Dec-90 14 dartdemo.zip Logic Simulator - Dart v2.26 14 conquest.zip 14 bangbang.zip Bang! Bang! Cannon-fire game v1.00 13 xmdisk.lzh GCC for MS-DOS (sorry, no docs) (incl. SYSV5 emu for 38 13 wintris.arc Tetris for Ms Windows v2.0 13 wingif09.zip WinGif v0.9; Windows gif viewer (problems...) 13 win30drv.zip Paradise VGA drivers (incl. Fast VGA) 13 objetris.zip OBJetris v1.0; Objective Tetris 13 mrmind.zip MasterMind Logic Game v1.1 13 lharcsrc.zoo Lharc for Unix (to handle .lzh files) ver 1.02 13 jason2.zoo Jason Jupiter II, Star Cadet 13 inter191.zip Ralf Brown's list of PC interrupts, impressive 13 ftphelp Ftp information and advice 13 frain151.zoo Fractint v15.1; Mandelbrot and Julia set fractal images 13 fhard101.zip Device driver makes 5Mb removable disk from 360K floppi 13 dosref18.zip Programmer's technical reference for msdos, 26-Oct-90 12 wck150.zip WinCheck v1.50 checkbook progr (impressive) 12 news.zip News (font) 8,10,12,14,18,24,30 (VGA) 12 manual.ps.Z IBM Minix v1.5 demo manual (ps) 12 jason.zoo Jason Jupiter, Star Cadet 12 horse.zip Galloping horse & YinYang v1.0 12 fmsound.zip Use FM synthesis abilities of your sound card 12 dvimswin.arc TeX .dvi previewer for MS-Windows v1.03 or > (req's win 12 dosicons.zip Icons for popular Dos programs 12 basstour.zip Fishing game (req's EGA) 12 atom.exe Music & graphics demo (req's VGA) 12 advent.zip Advent Calendar v1.0 11 zdoc0108.zip A good dsz z-modem documentation. A must for dsz zmodem 11 tm211-3.zip TeleMate v2.11 (incl. multitasking kernel) 11 soviet.zip Soviet Block; tetrisish game 11 rawrite.exe.Z 11 poker.zip Draw Poker v1.0 (good) 11 pk361.exe This packs and unpacks .arc files (self-extracting) 11 parawin3.zip Paradise SVGA drivers for Win3 rel 2 11 id12.zip Intelligent Disassembler v1.2 11 ibmminix.Z IBM Minix v1.5 demo 11 elephnts.zip Elephants (BMP) 11 cpuuse12.zip CPU usage meter v1.2 10 yo.exe Another music & graphics demo (req's VGA) 10 winsdl4.zip Microsoft Supplemental Drivers Library #4 10 wineyes.zip WinEyes v1.02 (xeyes/eyecon) 10 tvgawin3.zip Trident Utilities for Windows v3.0 10 tspfon29.arc Utilities and advice for Procomm Plus. 10 tarzan.zip ScreamTracker sample sounds 10 taipei.zip Taipei (mahjong) 10 stafield.zip Starfield v1.0; space-like star demo with mouse 10 pokersq.zip 10 obj2asm.zip OBJ to ASM (sorry, no docs...) 10 gs_2_0.exe Ghostscript v2.0 interpreter executable 10 fish3.zip Microsoft Fish! v1.0 10 cprof.zip C profiler (with Turbo C support) 10 corewar.zip CoreWar (req's EGA/VGA) 10 checkers.exe (Freeware) Checkers Program v1.0 10 bgidrv.zip Develop your own BGI device drivers 10 arc.tar.Z Arc un/packing for Unix (for .arc files) 10 alm101.zip Almanac for Windows v1.01 (great) ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) (03/02/91)
> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the > period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. --Kauto -- ****************** Kauto Huopio (huopio@kannel.lut.fi) ********************** * Mail: Kauto Huopio, Punkkerikatu 1 A 10, SF-53850 Lappeenranta,Finland * *****************************************************************************
komatsu@alcor.usc.edu (Sound Letter Test) (03/03/91)
In article <HUOPIO.91Mar2034430@kannel.lut.fi> huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes: > >> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the >> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the > >Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? > >If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would >send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special >site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why >we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. > >--Kauto Granted that if everybody sent a list to c.b.i.p.d it may be chaos but I do have to say to Timo please CONTINUE to post these. Timo has worked hard to keep garbo as one of the foremost sites and spends hours helping people find the programs they want. Personally I like these posts and also the new program uploads and Simtel for the following reasons 1) To find new program 2) To find out what is popular. Many times I will see a program on the list and then since it is popular go and download it and in most cases find I also like it. 3) I am sure many software developers would like to know how their programs are doing. Personally I wish SIMTEL would also post a frequent d/l list. That's just my opinion though... anybody else? |------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Note: ccb.ucsf.edu contains 15 megs of sound files for REmac & Playmac | | Mail: sound@ccb.ucsf.edu (with ADD-ME: name@site to be added to the | | sound list providing information on PC sound programs | |------------------------------------------------------------------------- | sound@ccb.ucsf.edu | Playmac Technologies | | komatsu@aludra.usc.edue | Co-author / Public Relations | | -----> Dave | Playmac 2.00, SIMP, TP, QL etc | --------------------------------------------------------------------------
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (03/03/91)
In article <HUOPIO.91Mar2034430@kannel.lut.fi> huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes: > >> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the >> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the > >Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? : A good question as such, Kauto, but knowing the motivation behind your question, I wish that you would get off my back, and keep the Finnish ftp-site infighting out of the net. Why don't you concentrate on making your own ftp sites good ones instead of sniping at garbo.uwasa.fi? >****************** Kauto Huopio (huopio@kannel.lut.fi) ********************** >* Mail: Kauto Huopio, Punkkerikatu 1 A 10, SF-53850 Lappeenranta,Finland * >***************************************************************************** ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
sjr@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (Sander J. Rabinowitz) (03/04/91)
KH> huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LF) TS> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) TS> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the TS> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the KH> Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? TS> A good question as such, Kauto, but knowing the motivation behind TS> your question, I wish that you would get off my back, and keep the TS> Finnish ftp-site infighting out of the net. Why don't you TS> concentrate on making your own ftp sites good ones instead of TS> sniping at garbo.uwasa.fi? Purely speculation on my part, but the reasons (in my mind) are as follows: 1) People want to know what programs are really popular (this would especially apply to shareware authors). 2) (From an int'l perspective): How many people in North America are downloading programs from archives in Finland when said files are available elsewhere? (I say this, since there's a report talking about which sites use garbo quite heavily.) Perhaps Mr. Salmi can confirm this? --- Sander Rabinowitz | sjr@mcimail.com -or- | std.disclaimer Farmington Hills, Mich. | sander@attmail.com | 8-)
storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER) (03/04/91)
>1) To find new programs >2) To find out what is popular. Many times I will see a program on the > list and then since it is popular go and download it and in most cases > find I also like it. >3) I am sure many software developers would like to know how their programs > are doing. Personally I wish SIMTEL would also post a frequent d/l list. I would not even be aware of the EXISTANCE of garbo.uwasa.fi if it were not for the posts from there. I find them very useful in keeping 'up to date'. I wasn't even aware that a new release of LHARC had been made until I read a post saying it was one of the most popular uploads... ./*- -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ storm@cs.mcgill.ca McGill University It's 11pm, do YOU Marc Wandschneider Montreal, CANADA know what time it is? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (03/04/91)
In article <1991Mar3.232836.5706@terminator.cc.umich.edu> sjr@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (Sander J. Rabinowitz) writes: >KH> huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LF) >KH> Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? : >1) People want to know what programs are really popular (this would > especially apply to shareware authors). Quite right. Furthermore if one looks at BBSes for an analogy, they very often have these TOP lists which make interesting reading on the side of their recently uploaded files lists. These two are probably what many users of BBSes use to filter interesting files from the plethora of files available and around. >2) (From an int'l perspective): How many people in North America are > downloading programs from archives in Finland when said files are > available elsewhere? (I say this, since there's a report talking > about which sites use garbo quite heavily.) > >Perhaps Mr. Salmi can confirm this? When you looked at the second of the garbo.uwasa.fi download statistics, you saw that it also gives ftp contacts by sites. One has to draw the conclusions from there. Dowloading by North American sites from garbo.uwasa.fi seems quite significant, but one would have to have a similar statistics from North American sites in order to draw comparative conclusions. ... In way of a general note: Obviously not everyone likes the garbo.uwasa.fi show, and the frequency of my postings. But the name of the ftp-site game is not only having lots of files available, but being able to convey information on what is potentially interesting, and having the files well organized and documented. It is not just a simple question of a large harddisk capacity. Nor should the name of the game be striving for a maximum number of downloads (that could easily be achieved by making dirty gif pictures available, as some sites previously did). ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli) (03/04/91)
huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes: >> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the >> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the >Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? >If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would >send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special >site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why >we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. Applause, applause! I've been meaning to post something like this for quite some time. I find the information a total waste of network resources. I manage an ftp site which has ~10,000 anonymous ftp logins per month. I doubt seriously anyone would be interested in the most active files, or the most active ftp user in the bunch. Perhaps the folks in Finland are doing this for some sort of financial justification of their resources? (Don't all of our bosses love it when we crank out those quantitative reports?!) :) -- michael regoli regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu regoli@iubacs.BITNET
uh@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Ulrich Hoffmann) (03/04/91)
I find the weekly download statistics from uwasa especially useful.
(One of the regular captured messages.) ts, please continue to send them.
In <HUOPIO.91Mar2034430@kannel.lut.fi> huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes:
kh>If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would
kh>send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special
kh>site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why
kh>we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering..
I'm sorry, but garbo.uwasa.fi *is* one of the most popular ftp sites in Europe.
The weekly download list is something like the euro charts -- eg. it shows
you, what programs are popular (and maybe a good choice to look at).
Even, if you are not located in Europe and/or ftp from other sites, it nevertheless
will give you a hint what's current state of art.
[By the way, nobody forces you to read the messages. You should be able to
selectively KILL message with a given topic, shouldn't you?]
Just defending...
Greetings,
Ulrich
Ulrich Hoffmann
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----------------------------------------------------------------------icking@gmdzi.gmd.de (Werner Icking) (03/05/91)
huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes: >> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the >> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the >Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? >If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would >send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special >site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why >we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. As far as I observe it there is a monthly summary of news at SIMTEL. And I like it. What I miss is a download statistic of SIMTEL and of it's major mirror sites, too. But once a month would be enough (for me :-). And may be that a europe-wide distribution of the download statistics of garbo would be sufficient. But that's not my problem. And let's thank ts and his staff, that they not only tell XYZ.ZIP downloaded twentynine times but add it's purpose and a (personal) judgement (good). -- Werner Icking icking@gmdzi.gmd.de (+49 2241) 14-2443 Gesellschaft fuer Mathematik und Datenverarbeitung mbH (GMD) Schloss Birlinghoven, P.O.Box 1240, D-5205 Sankt Augustin 1, FRGermany "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod."
car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) (03/07/91)
From article <1991Mar4.140951.12045@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, by regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli): > >>Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? > >>If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would >>send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special >>site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why >>we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. > > Applause, applause! I've been meaning to post something like this for > quite some time. I find the information a total waste of network > resources. I've been think about posting something about the download statistics too. This newsgroup should be used for discussing the IBM PC binaries which are posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. That's why I read this newsgroup. I'm not interested in anyone else's download/FTP statistics. And besides, unless you collect the statistics from a significant cross- section of the downloading/FTPing sites, you really can't tell what is really generally popular. What's popular in Finland isn't necessarilly what's popular in Michigan. If someone feels that they must share their download/FTP statistics, try comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc or something else. I think that this newsgroup should be used for discussing the comp.binaries.ibm.pc postings. car. -- Christopher A. Rende Central Cartage (Nixdorf/Pyramid/SysVR2/BSD4.3) uunet!edsews!rphroy!trux!car Multics,DTSS,Unix,Shortwave,Scanners,UnixPC/3B1 trux!car@uunet.uu.net Minix 1.2,PC/XT,Mac+,TRS-80 Model I,1802 ELF trux!ramecs!car "I don't ever remember forgetting anything." - Chris Rende
bourd@buster.cps.msu.edu (Robert Bourdeau) (03/07/91)
In article <300@ramecs.UUCP>, car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) writes: >From article <1991Mar4.140951.12045@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, by regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli): >> >>>Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? >> >>>If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would >>>send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special >>>site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why >>>we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. >> >> Applause, applause! I've been meaning to post something like this for >> quite some time. I find the information a total waste of network >> resources. > >I've been think about posting something about the download statistics too. > >This newsgroup should be used for discussing the IBM PC binaries which are >posted to comp.binaries.ibm.pc. That's why I read this newsgroup. > >I'm not interested in anyone else's download/FTP statistics. > >And besides, unless you collect the statistics from a significant cross- >section of the downloading/FTPing sites, you really can't tell what is really >generally popular. What's popular in Finland isn't necessarilly what's >popular in Michigan. > >If someone feels that they must share their download/FTP statistics, try >comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc or something else. > >I think that this newsgroup should be used for discussing the >comp.binaries.ibm.pc postings. > Well, I disagree. Since Garbo is an active archive site, I am interested in the IBM pc binaries that they have added to their archive. Seems to be less of a waste of bandwidth than all of the discussion about Commander Keen (even if it is a good game). Robert Bourdeau bourd@buster.cps.msu.edu Michigan State University
hazenpa@pyro.ei.dupont.com (Pete Hazen) (03/09/91)
In article <1991Mar7.151013.24968@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> bourd@buster.cps.msu.edu (Robert Bourdeau) writes: > >In article <300@ramecs.UUCP>, car@ramecs.UUCP (Chris Rende) writes: >>From article <1991Mar4.140951.12045@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, by >regoli@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli): >>> >>>>Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? >>> *** some lines deleted in the interest of brevity ... but you get the idea *** >Well, I disagree. Since Garbo is an active archive site, I am interested >in the IBM pc binaries that they have added to their archive. Seems to be >less of a waste of bandwidth than all of the discussion about Commander >Keen (even if it is a good game). > >Robert Bourdeau >bourd@buster.cps.msu.edu >Michigan State University I would have to agree with Robert above. I find the download statistics to be quite a useful check on the availability of new software at garbo. Many a time have I found just the utility that I needed because of this listing. To satisfy those that complain that they are too frequent I might suggest that Timo post them bi-weekly instead. But all should be reminded that there's an "n" key to bypass such messages (in rn anyway). Just my $0.02. --- Pete Hazen | (302) 733-9520 Du Pont Electronic Imaging Systems | (302) 733-9541 (FAX) P.O. Box 6099, Newark, DE USA 19714-6099 | hazenpa@pyro.ei.dupont.com
mcastle@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Mike Castle {Nexus}) (03/09/91)
The moderator of wuarchive.wustl.edu (can't think of his name off hand) posts
a similiar list to the BITNET LISTSERV discussion PCSERV-L on a monthly basis.
Last semester, someone complained about those posts as well. To solve the
problem, he took a vote.
I don't remember exactly how many people responded, but I do know that there
was only ONE (1) vote AGAINST the monthly posting.
Anyway, I have 2 suggestions.
1) Cut the postings back to every 2 weeks. This is still frequent enough to
keep everyone up to date on what's popular, and infrequent enough to not
bother people who are to lazy to put the subject in their kill file.
2) Take a vote similiar to the one done on PCSERV-L or those done for new
newsgroups. Use that to decide whether or not to continue.
Sorry if these have been posted already, but I'm a *BIT* behind in news (130+
articles :-).
Maybe these stats could be posted to comp.archives.... I don't remember seeing
such lists in that group... maybe we could start a trend.
--
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mcastle@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu (unix mail-YEACH!)| on a REAL
Life is like a clock: You can work constantly, and be right | operating
all the time, or not work at all, and be right twice a day. | system. :->w8sdz@rigel.acs.oakland.edu (Keith Petersen) (03/10/91)
It would probably be a good idea *not* to post statistics which show heavy usage of overseas paths. That is inviting trouble from the managers of the network which must carry such packets. If I were Timo I wouldn't call attention to such use. It's things like this which bring on changes in policy such as the upcoming Milnet "charge-back" for packets sent. Later this year all Milnet sites will be paying for outgoing packets. Keith -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS, MISC & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil or w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
root@dogear.UUCP (Bob Kirkpatrick) (03/10/91)
I tried to ftp (anonymous) to garbo.uwasa.fi --I could connect, but couldn't
accomplish anything. Even asking for a directory listing (ls) would bring the
message that the system had been interrupted, and there was no available path.
Timo Salmi can post what ever he chooses for all I care --You can't increase
anonymous ftp is his system (or those between) if the path won't allow trans-
fers. Sysadmins who worry about cost have the opportunity to remove the system
from their hostpath --or limit the type of transfer which occurs.
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Reply To: tau-ceti!dogear!root@isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick, Dog Ear'd Systems)
A Division of Brand-X, Spokane, WA 99202solomon@nike..FtCollins.NCR.com (Richard L. Solomon) (03/12/91)
> > huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio OH5LFM) writes: > > > >> Here are the download statistics for garbo.uwasa.fi archives for the > >> period from Fri 22-Feb-91 to Fri 1-Mar-91. This version of the > > >Now, DO WE NEED WEEKLY DOWNLOAD STATISTICS?? > > >If every single FTP site in the net that has IBM PC material would > >send their stats to c.b.i.p.d.. I mean, is garbo.uwasa.fi so special > >site that its statistics are a MUST-TO-READ to every net.person ? Why > >we don't have here SIMTEL20 stats? ftp.funet.fi? Just wondering.. I have to agree. I am a frequent user of garbo's mailserver, and find it to be an invaluable resource, but I really don't see the necessity for that listing being posted. Keep the stats sure, but make them available for download, don't force 1000's of sites across the world to PAY for the "privilege" of seeing your download stats. ----- Richard Solomon Richard.Solomon@ColoSpgs.NCR.COM ...!uunet!ncrlnk!ncr-mpd!Richard.Solomon NCR Microelectronics 1635 Aeroplaza Drive Colorado Springs, CO 80916 (719) 596-5795 x386
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) (03/14/91)
In article <1991Mar8.233407.22803@pyro.ei.dupont.com> hazenpa@pyro.ei.dupont.com (Pete Hazen) writes: : >I would have to agree with Robert above. I find the download statistics >to be quite a useful check on the availability of new software at garbo. >Many a time have I found just the utility that I needed because of this >listing. To satisfy those that complain that they are too frequent I >might suggest that Timo post them bi-weekly instead. But all should be >reminded that there's an "n" key to bypass such messages (in rn anyway). Pointer to pointer to garbo.uwasa.fi weekly download statistics: /pc/pd2/0news-pd2 Pointer to selected news announcements on garbo.uwasa.fi updates and uploads: /pc/pd2/0news-pd2 Pointer to withheld postings: /pc/pd2/0post ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous ftp archives 128.214.12.37 School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun