bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) (03/22/91)
If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- ulators. I have experienced delays in ship or weapons controls of upwards of 2 1/2 seconds. Anyone who has ever used a combat simulator can imagine what that means. The mouse control of the game is so sensitive (and no way to set it) that the game cannot be played with it. On the keyboard, the controls are such that improper keypresses in the heat of battle are common. Accompanied by the priority given to making the enemy real flashy and spiffy looking as it kills you, limits your ability to progress very far. I have fought (repeatedly) some 300 missions. I have yet to get past the 8th mission. I don't say this to indicate that I'm a dork, but that there is a real problem here. And yes, I've worked my way through a number of other simulators, like Battle of Britain, Falcon AT, and A-10 Tank Killer. Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e
steyn@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Gavin Steyn ) (03/22/91)
In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. >I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority >to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. Please note that Origin only recommends the game on machines that are 16Mhz or better. That's why the system responds so slowly on your machine. Yes, the mouse is sensitive, but the game is winnable (my roommate's done it). The graphics are amazing, and on his computer (25 mhz) the game runs very reasonably. Gavin Steyn steyn@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
woan@nowhere (Ronald S Woan) (03/22/91)
In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. That explains it, you don't even come close to the minimum recommended configuration. This has been discussed many times in rec.games.misc. If you don't have a machine (probably 16MHz 386SX min if you want sound), don't buy the game, otherwise the consensus of all the players and game magazines is that this is one of the finest games ever in it genre and run a recent Compute Magazine Award among others. >I have fought (repeatedly) some 300 missions. I have yet to get past the >8th mission. I don't say this to indicate that I'm a dork, but that there is >a real problem here. And yes, I've worked my way through a number of other >simulators, like Battle of Britain, Falcon AT, and A-10 Tank Killer. Big deal, I was able to get through the entire game in about a week using the play it until you win strategy. Of course I have been bogged down 2/3 through the Secret Missions for the last month, but I am thoroughly enjoying it. >Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e Or buy a faster machine first preferably with a sound board. This game was definitely not meant to be played without one, as it has some of the finest examples of using them for not just sound effects but synchronized music dependent on the action not just constant background stuff. Truly a breakthrough product in terms of quality and hardware requirements, but wait WC II is coming out later this year and will reputedly eat 32MB od HD space if you don't compress the graphics. This just might push me over the edge and get that CDROM player... Take a look at the USENET Game ratings and you will find WC near the top of the list in case you think me biased residing in the same town as Origin. -- +-----All Views Expressed Are My Own And Are Not Necessarily Shared By------+ +------------------------------My Employer----------------------------------+ + Ronald S. Woan woan@cactus.org or woan@austin.vnet.ibm.com + + other email addresses Prodigy: XTCR74A Compuserve: 73530,2537 +
jset_cif@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Jeff Setzer) (03/23/91)
I have to disagree with you vehemently about Wing Commander. First of all, it says quite clearly in the manual that it is optomized for a 386 running at 16 MHz and VGA...My apartmentmate has it for his 286/12, with VGA, and 2 meg of RAM, and it runs just fine. We tried it on my machine, which is similar to his except that it has but 1 meg RAM and EGA, and things went quite a bit more slowly...it was acceptable, though (but since I can play on his VGA machine, I decided not to buy my own copy and just use his). Also, the game was meant to run with a joystick...there aren't a whole lot of planes (spacefighters) that I know are controlled by a mouse or a keyboard set of arrow keys...those features are just put in as a nicety for marketing purposes. And, in case you're wondering, my apartmentmate and one of his other friends have each completed the entire set of missions, including those in the "Secret Missions Pack." You can't blame the company for your own hardware...I don't hate WC because it bites in EGA...the game was written for specific hardware. I would recommend the game to anyone with a 286/12 and VGA or better...the soundtrack is cool, too! :-) -- ASTROSETZ | Internet: jset_cif@cc.rochester.edu (U of Rochester, NY) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The Heavens Declare | ...but it's hard to tell with those | CONTEXT IS The Glory Of God..." | seven waves of spherical aberration! | EVERYTHING
kds@physics (Kevin Stokes) (03/23/91)
In article <39607@netnews.upenn.edu> steyn@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Gavin Steyn ) writes: >In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >>If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >>save your money. >>I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >>able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >>great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. > I run WC on a 12Mhz clone, and enjoy it very much. I have a joystick, which I believe is necessary for the enjoyment of the game. I managed to complete the game in about a week of play (with character resurrection). Anyway, this is not really the correct newsgroup for this discussion! -Kevin -- Kevin Stokes Duke University Dept. of Physics kds@phy.duke.edu Durham, N.C. 27706
shelby@sun1.ise.ufl.edu (Scott Preston) (03/23/91)
In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. > >I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority >to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. > >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a >masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, >make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- >ulators. Well, not to be mean or anything, I dont suppose that you read much or have a Sound Blaster. Before ragging on a game for its shortcomings you should read the package! It explicitly states "12 mhz or higher recommended." I notice that you state you have an 8 mhz. That means that you only have about 2/3s of the power required. if you have a Sound card then you are really going to be hurtin'. I have played Wing Commander as well as just about every other new game around. Wing Commander needs a bit of memory and some horsepower. It has great sound and graphics. shelby@sun1.ise.ufl.edu
jayh@ms.uky.edu (Jay Hofacker) (03/23/91)
bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a >masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, >make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- >ulators. As the game box clearly states: "RECOM'D: 12Mhz or higher". Why did you buy the game if you knew beforehand that your computer is too slow? -- Jay Hofacker, sysop of the Audio/Visual Exchange, (606)254-1751 3/12/24 MNP 5 Mail: jayh@ms.uky.edu or uk02779@ukpr.uky.edu -- Yes, my signature is only 2 lin
6600kntp@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Kent Perrier) (03/23/91)
In article <39607@netnews.upenn.edu> steyn@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Gavin Steyn ) writes: >In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >>If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >>save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. >>I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority >>to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. >>I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >>able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >>great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. >Please note that Origin only recommends the game on machines that are 16Mhz >or better. That's why the system responds so slowly on your machine. >Yes, the mouse is sensitive, but the game is winnable (my roommate's done >it). The graphics are amazing, and on his computer (25 mhz) the game >runs very reasonably. > Gavin Steyn >steyn@eniac.seas.upenn.edu I have a 16Mhz 386sx and I runs fine. Yes it slows down when there is a lot of other ships in the area but from what I have heard, that happens on everyones machine regardless of speed. BTW I have won the origional missions and now I am working on the Secret Missions. Kent Perrier Cogitio Ergo Sum 6600kntp@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu University of California 6600kntp@ucsbuxa.BITNET Santa Barbara
billj@uop.edu (Vinyl Suede) (03/23/91)
bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be ^^^^^^ >able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a that's odd...i won. >I have experienced delays in ship or weapons controls of upwards of 2 1/2 >seconds. Anyone who has ever used a combat simulator can imagine what that >means. >The mouse control of the game is so sensitive (and no way to set it) that >the game cannot be played with it. On the keyboard, the controls are such >that improper keypresses in the heat of battle are common. Accompanied by >the priority given to making the enemy real flashy and spiffy looking as it >kills you, limits your ability to progress very far. i think the real problem here is a lack of reading the box before buying the product. as well as i remember, origin specifically intended wing commander to be played on 16 mhz computers or faster. in my experience, 25 mhz is perfect - the controls (both keyboard, mouse, AND joystick) work flawlessly and there is no apparent "choppiness" (at least until you start fighting 6 or more ships at once...in an asteroid field 8-o ) my suggestion is (besides buying a new computer): try running the game in ega mode. the graphics really suck, but it's more playable at your speed. VS -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Steppin' on toes is a common routine | Send email/flames to: Sneakin' up from behind | billj@uop.uop.edu You won't get anywhere |----------------------------------- Dancin' out of time" - Deborah Gibson | Disclaimer: It's all mine! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
vcl@mimas.UUCP (Victor C. Limary) (03/23/91)
bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: > If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, > save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. > > I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority > to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. > > I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be > able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a > great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a > masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, > make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- > ulators. > > I have experienced delays in ship or weapons controls of upwards of 2 1/2 > seconds. Anyone who has ever used a combat simulator can imagine what that > means. > > The mouse control of the game is so sensitive (and no way to set it) that > the game cannot be played with it. On the keyboard, the controls are such > that improper keypresses in the heat of battle are common. Accompanied by > the priority given to making the enemy real flashy and spiffy looking as it > kills you, limits your ability to progress very far. > > I have fought (repeatedly) some 300 missions. I have yet to get past the > 8th mission. I don't say this to indicate that I'm a dork, but that there is > a real problem here. And yes, I've worked my way through a number of other > simulators, like Battle of Britain, Falcon AT, and A-10 Tank Killer. > > Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e You just can't say all of those things about Wing Commander. I've heard excellent reviews on it from just about everybody that's played it. Just because you run it on an 8Mhz computer, and it's slow doesn't mean that it's not playable for people with faster computers. Try it on a 12Mhz computer and see what you think before you make these kinds of comments. _______ / \ | O O | Victor Limary <| < |> mimas!vcl@bbx.basis.com | _____ | \ U / "-----"
mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz) (03/24/91)
In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com>, bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: > I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be > able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a > great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a > masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, > make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- > ulators. When you purchased the game, did you look at the front cover only, or did you read the whole package? Well, in case you didn't read the package, it says "12 Mhz or better". The documentation says that you should really have a 386-16Mhz or better machine. The configuration that I use for WC is: * Everex 386/20MHz * 140 MB EDSI hard drive * Video-7 V-RAM card * NEC Multi-Sync 4D Monitor * Summasketch Professional * Sound Blaster (with C/MS included) I've loaded the game onto the hard drive's 16-MB G: partition utilizing the "Save Time" configuration. Obviously, this takes up more time in the initial game copying to hard drive, but saves time in actual game play. Which reminds me: Are you playing this game on a hard drive or off floppies? (Obviously, this is a configuration for a mega-bucks system. It was designed for use with AutoCAD at work, but I use it for telecommunications and game playing after-hours). After playing the game, I realized that a graphics tablet configured as a mouse was not the ideal control device for WC. Thus, I purchased a joystick. Lovely game. Also, did you bother to read the documentation? Each time you fire your lasers, it uses up blaster energy, which is slowly replenished during play. > I have experienced delays in ship or weapons controls of upwards of 2 1/2 > seconds. Anyone who has ever used a combat simulator can imagine what that > means. Yes, a need to purchase a better machine. > The mouse control of the game is so sensitive (and no way to set it) that > the game cannot be played with it. On the keyboard, the controls are such > that improper keypresses in the heat of battle are common. For an arcade game like Wing Commander, the best controls are not the keyboard or the mouse, but a JOYSTICK!!!!!! > Accompanied by > the priority given to making the enemy real flashy and spiffy looking as it > kills you, limits your ability to progress very far. This is part of the appeal of the game. Instead of having line-drawn ships like Elite, you get to blast solids, whole, ships. > Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e I strongly suggest that, before you condemn an entire company's product line based upon a single product, that you purchase one of the Origin's "Ultima" series. This is not as demanding on your system's as WC. -- "We wish to remind the Usenet /\ UUCP: ames att!pacbell! \ readers that whatever mholtz [] pyramid sun!pacbell! -=> sactoh0!mholtz says is being monitored by [] {ucbvax!}ucdavis!csusac! / inews censors at sactoh0." \/ INTERNET: mholtz@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US anyways!
jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) (03/25/91)
>bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: > > If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, > save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. ... > I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be > able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a > great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a > masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, > make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- > ulators. ... > I have fought (repeatedly) some 300 missions. I have yet to get past the > 8th mission. I don't say this to indicate that I'm a dork, but that there is > a real problem here. And yes, I've worked my way through a number of other > simulators, like Battle of Britain, Falcon AT, and A-10 Tank Killer. > Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e This guy doesn't know how to read. Right on the box they recomend 12mhz or HIGHER. I've got a 16mhz 268, and it runs quite nicely! I'm playing with a SoundBlaster and VGA, with no problems at all. I've been hacking and slashing my way to victory. :-) BTW, I've also got A10. It's on the other side of the spectrum. I've got to slow my PC down to fly it. Buy Wing Commander. With a VGA monitor and SoundBlaster, you'll really love it. -Jeff -- Jeff Beadles jeff@onion.rain.com
minar@reed.edu (03/25/91)
In article <1991Mar24.030507.15534@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz) writes: [Wing Commander is really a good game] >I strongly suggest that, before you condemn an entire company's >product line based upon a single product, that you purchase one of >the Origin's "Ultima" series. Unless its Ultima VI, of course, one of the most bug-ridden games I can remember being seriously released. Its a pretty good game, but any game whose documentation comes with warnings like "don't get too many spells - it might crash" is a little silly. humbug spam spam spam humbug
bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (03/26/91)
I have heard via e-mail, and seen here, a few responses to my post on Wing Commander. I note with disappointment, that most of those who responded believe that I failed to read the box or documentation. Not true. I did. I just responded to a person who wrote to me about it. The ONLY thing that MY documentation says is: IBM-PC and 100% Compatibles. Nowhere does it say "12mhz" Nowhere is any comment about command line "switches" It is specific that the game may be played with mouse or keyboard, but that some players "prefer" a joystick. I do NOT play off of floppy disk. I DID configure it for "save time" I DID configure it for "no sound" I DO have enough memory to run the game (640 on the motherboard 3meg on top) My hard disk does NOT have a 4 minute access time. It's an 85mb Maxtor 18ms. Origin, in a phone converation indicated that "certain changes" had been made to the documentation, and "not all" of the games had the same. They also said that "certain changes" were made due to problems of understanding by purchasers in the past. Give me a break. My original post was to indicate my great frustration, the lack of data on the best system to play it on, and their practice of leaving players unable to respond in close-quarters combat. Period. Whoever that was that talked about a 'skip' switch, what ARE you talking about? I tried it. No Effect. My frustration stands, and has been augmented by those who tossed flames in the midst of my words "does anyone know of any undocumented features to make this better?" To those of you with fancy machines and the money to make them fancier, good for you. I'm not in that position. It took a LOT of saving before Wing Commander could be bought. Have a nice day.
mlord@bwdls58.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) (03/27/91)
In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes:
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And therein lies your problem.. the packaging clearly states that 12Mhz or
faster is highly recommended (required?). Inside the box, it mentions that
16Mhz or faster is also nice. My 386SX runs at 20Mhz and the game is FANTASTIC,
although I still have noticed some response degradation when more than seven
or eight ships are on the screen. Just lure one away from the pack and then
take it out one-on-one, then go back for another.
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endw8sdz@smoke.brl.mil (Keith Petersen) (03/27/91)
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In addition to a fast computer, can someone tell me other requirements for Wing Commander? How much is it? -- +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Santanu Sircar BITNET: ssircar@umaecs.bitnet | | University of Massachusetts/Amherst INTERNET: ssircar@ecs.umass.edu | +------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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billj@uop.edu (Vinyl Suede) (03/29/91)
ssircar@ecs.umass.edu (Good writers re-write -- not write!) writes: >In addition to a fast computer, can someone tell me other requirements for >Wing Commander? How much is it? - a fast computer - a seatbelt 8-) - a good vga card and monitor is nice - a joystick is VERY nice (flightstick is best) - expanded memory is used, but slows down program response - i don't use it most of the time. - i bought it used for $30, but i think retail is around $40-45. VS -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Steppin' on toes is a common routine | Send email/flames to: Sneakin' up from behind | billj@uop.uop.edu You won't get anywhere |----------------------------------- Dancin' out of time" - Deborah Gibson | Disclaimer: It's all mine! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ekman@wdl30.wdl.loral.com (Donald Ekman) (03/30/91)
In article <27f2ba0b.2c06@uop.uop.edu> billj@uop.edu (Vinyl Suede) writes: >ssircar@ecs.umass.edu (Good writers re-write -- not write!) writes: > >>In addition to a fast computer, can someone tell me other requirements for >>Wing Commander? How much is it? > >- a fast computer >- a seatbelt 8-) >- a good vga card and monitor is nice >- a joystick is VERY nice (flightstick is best) >- expanded memory is used, but slows down program response - i don't use > it most of the time. >- i bought it used for $30, but i think retail is around $40-45. > > >VS > >-- >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > "Steppin' on toes is a common routine | Send email/flames to: > Sneakin' up from behind | billj@uop.uop.edu > You won't get anywhere |----------------------------------- > Dancin' out of time" - Deborah Gibson | Disclaimer: It's all mine! >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= This is not a flame; it is not a suggestion that this is inappropriate for this group. What I do suggest is that those who want to discuss computer games might find a better forum on rec.games.misc. By "better forum" I mean that there are more people posting and reading articles about computer games there than there are in this group, so your chances of finding useful information are better there. See you there, Don -- Donald E. Ekman | Disclaimer: Loral | How oft the sight of means Space Systems/Loral | doesn't think I have | to do ill deeds Palo Alto, CA USA | any opinions. They | Makes ill deeds done! ekman@wdl1.wdl.loral.com | are probably right. |
curtism@uncw.UUCP (mike curtis) (04/01/91)
It sounds to me like that guy is still crying because his MACHINE SUCKS, not the GAME. Playing Wing Commander on a 8 mHz machine is like putting super unleaded in a Yugo... You could do it, but why in the hell would you want to.
oneill@ulowell.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) (04/01/91)
[If the discussion is already over, I apologize. My news feed is lagging...] In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. > I happen to thing it is one of the best games around... >I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority >to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. > Yes, it has excellent graphics, but I also thing that the game functionality is great too. >I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a >masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, >make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- >ulators. > [Various other problems nuked...] Perhaps it could be that you didn't read the requirements label before you bought the game? You know, that (usually) blue label on the lower left front and left side of the box that explains what equipment is supported? I believe it states that you need 12Mhz or better. I tried runnig it on a 12Mhz EGA system, but it was too slow. I have a 33Mhz VGA system, and it is great. I've finished it. I'm holding off on bying the Secret Missions Disk so I won't lock myself away for a week playing it. Haven't you ever read the requirements before buying it? > >Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e One should not make these sort of criticisms unless that person knows all the facts. -- ======================================================================= Brian O'Neill - Systems Manager, Computer Science, University of Lowell Internet: oneill@ulowell.edu (508) 934-3645 UUCP: harvard!ulowell!oneill
dgn1@ra.MsState.Edu (Dwargon Evilslayer) (04/02/91)
I finally finished the secret missions.... and I was much happy. However.... I have found that my 12Mhz 286 with an EGA card was sufficient to run WC.... but I would have done almost anything for a vga card, or a faster machine on many of the missions.... The game was decent on my machine, but soooo much better on others. Has anyone figured out a way to prgram your own scenarios... A couple friends of mine are trying to find the mission info, any help out there....? Even better is there a Wing Commander Mission Generator on the planning board. Dwargon
lumpi@dobag.in-berlin.de (Joern Lubkoll) (04/03/91)
oneill@ulowell.ulowell.edu (Brian 'Doc' O'Neill) writes: >[If the discussion is already over, I apologize. My news feed is lagging...] >In article <957@tau-ceti.isc-br.com> bobk@tau-ceti.isc-br.com (Bob Kirkpatrick ) writes: >>If anyone is considering the purchase if WING COMMANDER by Origin of Texas, >>save your money. There are a lot BETTER things to spend your money on. >> >I happen to thing it is one of the best games around... I would even call it the technical (graphics and sound-effects) best game available for ibm-comp. at this time ! >>I have WING COMMANDER, and have discovered that the game will give priority >>to it's fancy graphics instead of game function. >> >Yes, it has excellent graphics, but I also thing that the game functionality >is great too. You nearly have to turn your head away from the monitor, if one alien fighter attacks you... >>I run a slower (8mhz) PC clone 286. On my system, I can expect to NOT be >>able to fire my guns when in close proximity to the enemy, giving them a >>great advantage. In essence, there is no winning the game. If you're a >>masochist, then this IS the game for you. But if you wish to hone skills, >>make achievements, and progress in levels, then use one of the other sim- >>ulators. >> >[Various other problems nuked...] >Perhaps it could be that you didn't read the requirements label before you >bought the game? You know, that (usually) blue label on the lower left front >and left side of the box that explains what equipment is supported? I >believe it states that you need 12Mhz or better. I tried runnig it on a >12Mhz EGA system, but it was too slow. I have a 33Mhz VGA system, and it is I play it on my 486/25-System with high-speed vga and it is the greatest thing to do !!! Shutdown the unix system, connect an old dos-harddrive and boot from it, just to play !!!!! Its definetly fun ! >Haven't you ever read the requirements before buying it? >>Origin's product eats it folks. Save your money --buy something else.e >One should not make these sort of criticisms unless that person knows all >the facts. so it is ! jl -- lumpi@dobag.in-berlin.de | Why drink & drive when you can lumpi@dobag.north.de ! smoke and fly ????? ! And if you smoke try the Columbian. ! [Seen on a Springbreak-Shirt in Key West]