hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) (03/15/90)
In article <2156@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes: > > I have been getting requests for Telix ever since Keith listed it as >an upload to simtel20. After about 50 requests, I managed to get into >simtel20 on a weekend and pull the files. I thought people wanted the >new version for bug fixes and features. > > Since I posted part 1 I have gotten about 20 messages, many quite >rude, telling me that I didn't review it. It's a communication program, >what's to review? It's been discussed on the net, mentioned on TV, >reviewed in some magazines, and I assumed that people knew what it was. I dont' believe this?! People are crying for months because there were no activity and no moderator in c.p.i.b and then when there finally is they start to bashing him. Come on - if this is the direction then we soon are in the situation that were before this moderator started his job. Let's be polite for him. He has not an easy job to do. And remember - he just started. And Bill, don't give up - there are A LOT OF PEOPLE following your actions and the list; so there are also MANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS. Sending Telix was A VERY GOOD THING to do, but I think that for example Procomm users can be "hurt" if they found that there are other programs that are better... -- ----------------Harri Valkama (hv@uwasa.fi)------------- University of Vaasa, Finland anonymous ftp site (128.214.12.3) PC and Mac directories
nts0302@dsacg3.dsac.dla.mil (Bob Fisher) (03/15/90)
From article <2156@crdos1.crd.ge.COM>, by davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr): | | Since I posted part 1 I have gotten about 20 messages, many quite | rude, telling me that I didn't review it. It's a communication program, | what's to review? It's been discussed on the net, mentioned on TV, | reviewed in some magazines, and I assumed that people knew what it was. | | I certainly don't mind polite suggestions on improving the group, but | these were far from polite, and many of the suggestion had nothing to | do with computers. It always amazes me to see people tell me that their | time is too precious to waste downloading and looking at a readme (or | asking a polite question), when they have time to write six screens of | personal invective in reply to a posting. Bill I hope you can shrug off the childish outbursts of the Vocal Minority and accept the thanks and appreciation of the rest of net users. There is a point here, however. Maybe you can put a short one-line description or just catagorize as comm, game, utility, etc with each release. -- Bob Fisher US Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center DSAC-TSX, Box 1605, Columbus, OH 43216-5002 614-238-9071 (AV 850-9071) bfisher@dsac.dla.mil osu-cis!dsacg1!bfisher
hoffman@wrdso.ATT.DSO (Paul R Hoffman) (03/15/90)
> I have been getting requests for Telix ever since Keith listed it as > an upload to simtel20. After about 50 requests, I managed to get into > simtel20 on a weekend and pull the files....<stuff deleted> > Since I posted part 1 I have gotten about 20 messages, many quite > rude, telling me that I didn't review it. It's a communications<stuff deleted> ---^ > bill davidsen (davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM -or- uunet!crdgw1!crdos1!davidsen) > "Stupidity, like virtue, is its own reward" -me Let em flame. I downloaded it and tried it out last night...Looks great to me and thanks for posting it. It certainly didn't take a great deal of effort to figure it out and, as you said, it has been widely mentioned in the past. (FYI those who don't know, it is *similar* in look to Procomm.) -- ============================================================================ Paul Russell Hoffman UUCP/Email: att!fswest!hoffman or attmail!phoffman ============================================================================ /* Suck up to everyone, you never know who you're going to work for. */
mrh@camcon.co.uk (Mark Hughes) (03/15/90)
davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.COM (Wm E Davidsen Jr) writes: > Since I posted part 1 I have gotten about 20 messages, many quite >rude, telling me that I didn't review it. It's a communication program, >what's to review? It's been discussed on the net, mentioned on TV, >reviewed in some magazines, and I assumed that people knew what it was. Well, you asked for it. All postings should contain a description, no matter how well known you believe the program to be. Even "here's telex, a communications program that's been discussed on the net, mentioned on TV, and reviewed in some magazines" is better than nothing. :-) -- ---------------- Eml: mrh@camcon.co.uk or mrh@camcon.uucp | Mark Hughes | Tel: +44 (0) 223 420024 Cambridge Consultants Ltd. |(Compware & CCL)| Fax: +44 (0) 223 423373 The Science Park, Milton Road, ---------------- Tlx: 81481 (CCL G) Cambridge, UK. (Me, an opinion?)
eichi@forty2.UUCP (Stefan Eichenberger) (03/16/90)
In article <1990Mar15.062734.7831@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama LAKE) writes: >In article <2156@crdos1.crd.ge.COM> davidsen@crdos1.crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes: [concerning countless postings of TELIX on comp.binaries.ibm.pc] >> >> Since I posted part 1 I have gotten about 20 messages, many quite >>rude, telling me that I didn't review it. It's a communication program, >>what's to review? It's been discussed on the net, mentioned on TV, >>reviewed in some magazines, and I assumed that people knew what it was. > >I dont' believe this?! People are crying for months because there >were no activity and no moderator in c.p.i.b and then when there >finally is they start to bashing him. Come on - if this is the Well, what's the moderators job then? There was the time, when comp.binaries. ibm.pc was unmoderated, and almost closed down for it's volume. Now, we seem to have a sort of an 'automated moderater' who has a script to get the biggest files from Simtel and post them immediatly to the group without even adding a line saying that it is a communication package. Does he really expect me to load all the garbage down just to find out I don't have use to it, because I don't need such a program at the moment? What's the difference between completely uncommented postings and an un- moderated news group with its high noise level? BTW., remember the good reviews by Rahul? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- UUCP: ...mcvax!cernvax!forty2!eichi Stefan Eichenberger BITNET: K807817@CZHRZU1A University of Zurich ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
person@plains.UUCP (Brett G. Person) (03/17/90)
Ya know, you could give some people the world on a silver platter and they'd still complain. So what if Bill didn't review it? If you don't understand what something is, ask! Thats what the .d is for. A note for Bill: Did you ever get the backlog from Rahul? -- Brett G. Person North Dakota State University uunet!plains!person | person@plains.bitnet | person@plains.nodak.edu
keithe@tekgvs.LABS.TEK.COM (Keith Ericson) (03/17/90)
What the heck is this unlabelled keyboard doing connected to my computer, anyway? And why doesn't someone come over here and type in the right stuff for me so I don't have to look at it and figure out which keys do what? I mean, if you guys can't make it easy enough for me to automatically get these programs - preferably without making me have to type some weird commands on my keyboard - then you're sure not dong a very good job with this news group. So there, Ollie! kEITHe
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (03/18/90)
In article <1259@forty2.UUCP> eichi@forty2.UUCP (Stefan Eichenberger) writes: | Well, what's the moderators job then? There was the time, when comp.binaries. | ibm.pc was unmoderated, and almost closed down for it's volume. Now, we seem | to have a sort of an 'automated moderater' who has a script to get the biggest | files from Simtel and post them immediatly to the group without even | adding a line saying that it is a communication package. Does he really | expect me to load all the garbage down just to find out I don't have use to | it, because I don't need such a program at the moment? The moderator's job is to provide a flow of generally useful software, leavened with an occasional odd tidbit, such as hard to find stuff or really nifty programs which only a part of the readership will use. WHen sixhub was down for three days while I was trying to add disk for the archive service and anon uucp nothing went out. I grabbed telix out of order and queued it because (a) a lot of people wanted it after Keith mentioned it, (b) it had been described by keith very recently, and (c) I had sent my weekend pulling hardware apart and restoring files, and wanted something I could queue and walk away from. | What's the difference between completely uncommented postings and an un- | moderated news group with its high noise level? BTW., remember the good | reviews by Rahul? Remember the long silence? -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc "Getting old is bad, but it beats the hell out of the alternative" -anon
davidsen@sixhub.UUCP (Wm E. Davidsen Jr) (03/18/90)
In article <3797@plains.UUCP> person@plains.UUCP (Brett G. Person) writes: | | Ya know, you could give some people the world on a silver platter and they'd | still complain. So what if Bill didn't review it? If you don't understand | what something is, ask! Thats what the .d is for. Well, I didn't intend to send it out without saying it was a comm package, but I did think Keith's note was about enough. And I'm amazed at the people who have apologised for mail I thought was perfectly fine. Someone who mentioned that the review was missing didn't offend me, it took some serious personal insult to do that. | | A note for Bill: Did you ever get the backlog from Rahul? Consider the backlog gone. I don't have it and am not looking for it. I am still looking for a complete list of all postings for vols 1-5, but I regard the backlog as a dead issue. If something you sent to Rahul is still topical, send it to me. I can handle most formats, but things which come in without any indication of what they are get processed more slowly than things with a paragraph (if the readers got upset about one posting without an intro, think how I feel about 7-10 per week!), and anything packaged in a self unpacking archive is treated like a time bomb, and unpacked on a special machine dedicated to being (a) indestructable, (b) able to identify any virus which comes in, and (c) easily restorable if I find a problem. If I can't identify the package as being public domain or shareware I usually have to ask why it is available to be posted, unless you save me the trouble and tell me. You don't have to write a lot. As a good example of covering the two points, "This is whizz, a tetris-like game I wrote and release for non-commercial use." Isn't that easy? -- bill davidsen - davidsen@sixhub.uucp (uunet!crdgw1!sixhub!davidsen) sysop *IX BBS and Public Access UNIX moderator of comp.binaries.ibm.pc "Getting old is bad, but it beats the hell out of the alternative" -anon
a563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) (03/18/90)
> ts writes: > > Msg-ID: <1990Mar19.093226.2171@uwasa.fi> > Posted: 19 Mar 90 09:32:26 GMT > > Org. : University of Vaasa > Person: Timo Salmi LASK > Telix' best features > are its inbuilt z-modem, its user friendliness, and its fast script > language. But its host mode is not as good as eg that of Procomm, Yes, the DEFAULT host is not as good as the one in PROCOMM, but there are several different host modes written in SALT (Script Application Language for Telix). I've even seen one with FULL messaging! Different message areas, replys, a line editor, and other features. They should be available on any good IBM file board. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Dave Kirsch UUCP: {uunet,ubc-cs}!van-bc!rsoft!mindlink!a563 Voice: (604) 327-4404 a563@mindlink.UUCP Vancouver, British Columbia
hartung@amos.ucsd.edu.ling.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung) (03/19/90)
In article <1259@forty2.UUCP> eichi@forty2.UUCP (Stefan Eichenberger) writes: >Well, what's the moderators job then? There was the time, when comp.binaries. >ibm.pc was unmoderated, and almost closed down for it's volume. Now, we seem [stuff deleted] >What's the difference between completely uncommented postings and an un- >moderated news group with its high noise level? BTW., remember the good >reviews by Rahul? Yes, there were BIG problems with unmoderated c.b.i.p, but when Rahul slowed down, LOTS of people asked for a return to the (admittedly unworkable) situation. Rahul was suggesting, at the time, a RUSH category, where he indicated that he had not had the time to properly review the software and had only performed a virus check and repackaged the archive as a ZOO archive. Many wanted this. As far as your "What's the difference..." question is concerned, I can think of a couple w/o trying very hard: 1. Virus scanning (Bill has said that this is a minimum requirement before he posts anything. 2. No multiple postings of the same program / unnecessary reposts. 3. No postings of "new" versions of a program that come out monthly w/ slight bugfixes or minimal changes. I used to see this alot in the "bad old (unmoderated) days." 4. The programs actually work. Granted, I think that we'd all like to see moderator commentary when possible, and an indication that this is a popular communications package might have been worth Bill's effort, but _most_ of us had heard Telix (a totally KILLER program, IMHO) discussed before, and I cannot understand _anyone_ calling it a waste of a download to find out what it was. Do you download at 300 bps, or what? --Jeff Hartung-- Disclaimer: My opinions only, etc., etc., BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!... ARPA - hartung@amos.ucsd.edu UUCP - ucsd!amos.ucsd.edu!hartung BITNET - hartung%amos.ucsd.edu@sds.sdsc.edu
wagner@unc.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) (03/19/90)
After hearing something about Telix in this newsgroup, I downloaded a copy. I like the vt102 emulation and the ability to turn off the status line. It might replace Procomm as my comm program of choice-- for a lot of reasons that aren't clear to me, Procomm doesn't seem to coexist very well with vi. I say "might" in the paragraph above because I can't get Kermit downloads to work with Telix. I tell the machine I'm comminicating with (a VAX runnining 4.3 BSD) kermit -p e -i -s filename and then hit <PageDn> and Telix waits forever for the other side to send a "Send_Init" string (that's what the message on this end says), and then times out. I copied the Kermit parameters from the way I had Procomm set up (incidentally, Kermit transfers work perfectly under Procomm). I did have ine question is "handshake char" in Procommese the same as "packet begin char" in Telixese? Does anyone have any ideas? I would really like to have a communications program that supports a full vt102 emulation on an AT 101 keyboard (which Telix does), and Kermit file transfer (which Procomm does). So far I haven't found one that does both. Mike Wagner wagner@dopey.cs.unc.edu wagner@cahaba.med.unc.edu
sbarr@ic.sunysb.edu (Sanford L Barr) (03/19/90)
In article <12706@thorin.cs.unc.edu> wagner@unc.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes: >I say "might" in the paragraph above because I can't get >Kermit downloads to work with Telix. I tell the machine >I'm comminicating with (a VAX runnining 4.3 BSD) > kermit -p e -i -s filename > >and then hit <PageDn> and Telix waits forever for the >other side to send a "Send_Init" string (that's what >the message on this end says), and then times out. I haven't been experiencing any problems with Kermit transfers on our system (HP-UX (4.3BSD/SysV)) using the default Kermit setup: A control quote : 25 B padding char : 0 C # padding chars: 0 D Packet size : 94 E Start Packet : 1 F End of Line : 13 G Filetype : binary -- ::::::::::::::::: - Sanford L. Barr - ::::::::::::::::::::"Never argue with a ___- ARPA: sbarr@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu _------ :: fool. Most people ____- UUCP: ...!cmcl2!sbcs!libserv1!sbarr _----- :: won't be able to _____- ..!rutgers!philabs!sbcs!libserv1!sbarr _---- :: tell the difference."
ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) (03/19/90)
In article <12706@thorin.cs.unc.edu> wagner@unc.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes: >After hearing something about Telix in this newsgroup, ... deleted ... >I say "might" in the paragraph above because I can't get >Kermit downloads to work with Telix. I tell the machine ... deleted ... >Does anyone have any ideas? I would really like to have It is difficult to pinpoint the problem because there are so many variables to the equation, but these problems DO occur in some configurations even if other users may experience no problems at all. Especially if the connection is through another machine and/or a server such problems are more likely. The answer is to experiment with different settings. Just to start with try the different parieties and 7/8 bits even if there is no guarantee that this alone will solve your problem. One (almost) sure way of getting kermit transfers to work is naturally using MsKermit terminal emulation. Another thing which you might attempt (even if this sometimes also involves serious problems) is using z-modem transfers. Telix has it inbuilt, and Unix end-of-things z-modem is available from ftp sites such as Simtel20 and ours. Telix is a very useful program, but no communication program is entirely free from problems. The choice varies from purpose to purpose, and from environment to environment. Telix' best features are its inbuilt z-modem, its user friendliness, and its fast script language. But its host mode is not as good as eg that of Procomm, and it is not as robust and flexible in terminal emulation as eg MsKermit. Quite another thing. As for people castigating our moderator for the Telix posting and sending rude messages to Bill. Have some manners and consideration, will you! And put things in perspective. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Patt Haring) (03/19/90)
In article <12706@thorin.cs.unc.edu> wagner@unc.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes: >[deleted] >I say "might" in the paragraph above because I can't get >Kermit downloads to work with Telix. I tell the machine >I'm comminicating with (a VAX runnining 4.3 BSD) > kermit -p e -i -s filename > >and then hit <PageDn> and Telix waits forever for the >Does anyone have any ideas? I believe <PageDn> is the command ProCOMM uses to receive files; if you are, indeed, using TELIX 3.12 then the command you want is Alt-R then hit K for Kermit :-) -- Patt Haring patth@sci.ccny.cuny.edu "Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch. Nay, you may kick it about all day, and it will be round and full at evening." -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
derek@carroll1.cc.edu (Derek Inksetter) (03/20/90)
In article <12706@thorin.cs.unc.edu> wagner@unc.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) writes:
:After hearing something about Telix in this newsgroup,
:I downloaded a copy. . .
:
:and then hit <PageDn> and Telix waits forever for the
:other side to send a "Send_Init" string (that's what
:emulation on an AT 101 keyboard (which Telix does), and
:Kermit file transfer (which Procomm does). So far I
:haven't found one that does both.
:
:Mike Wagner
Have you given Kermit a thought?
Kermit (3.0) does both vt102 and vt320 (which is backward
compatible) excellently, and the keyboard is completely remappable,
so you can have either a full vt102 keyboard or your own keyboard,
whichever you want. In addition, Kermit is free. (That's right,
Free!)
Needless to say, it does flawless Kermit transfers (w/ sliding
windows, 2k blocks, etc.)
:wagner@dopey.cs.unc.edu
:wagner@cahaba.med.unc.edu
derek
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The clear answer is to get a copy of RZSZ (zmodem c src code) and
compile it on your BSD unix box. It is superior to Kermit and will
work nicely with Telix.
the code is available on simtel20
--
Maurice Thaler SYSOP Audio Projects BBS (608) 836-9473
SYSOP Power Board BBS (608) 222-8842 ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi LASK) (03/20/90)
In article <1335@mindlink.UUCP> a563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) writes: >Yes, the DEFAULT host is not as good as the one in PROCOMM, but there are >several different host modes written in SALT (Script Application Language for >Telix). I've even seen one with FULL messaging! Different message areas, >replys, a line editor, and other features. They should be available on any >good IBM file board. Quite true. And while at it why not follow up suggestions such as this one. I am sure that everyone would benefit if you (or anyone) would list names of these packages, or better still upload to chyde.uwasa.fi and/or Simtel20 in case they aren't already there. Contributions in maintaining the anon ftp sites is solicited, because this privilege should work both ways. And if a utility is good and appropriate enough, I am positive that Bill (Davidsen) might also be interested. ................................................................... Prof. Timo Salmi (Moderating at anon. ftp site 128.214.12.3) School of Business Studies, University of Vaasa, SF-65101, Finland Internet: ts@chyde.uwasa.fi Funet: gado::salmi Bitnet: salmi@finfun
w8sdz@smoke.BRL.MIL (Keith Petersen) (03/21/90)
In article <1335@mindlink.UUCP> a563@mindlink.UUCP (Dave Kirsch) writes: >Yes, the DEFAULT host is not as good as the one in PROCOMM, but there are >several different host modes written in SALT (Script Application Language for >Telix). I've even seen one with FULL messaging! Different message areas, >replys, a line editor, and other features. They should be available on any >good IBM file board. The improved host mode for Telix is on SIMTEL20: Directory PD2:<MSDOS2.TELIX> Filename Type Length Date Description ============================================== HOST41.ARC B 103035 900303 Host 4.1, improved BBS Host mode for Telix 3.x -- Keith Petersen Maintainer of SIMTEL20's MSDOS, MISC, & CP/M archives [IP address 26.2.0.74] Internet: w8sdz@WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil, w8sdz@brl.mil BITNET: w8sdz@NDSUVM1 Uucp: {ames,decwrl,harvard,rutgers,ucbvax,uunet}!wsmr-simtel20.army.mil!w8sdz
"Arnold G. Gill" <GILLA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> (03/21/90)
In article <21955@netnews.upenn.edu>, weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Neil Weisenfeld) says: > >A few of the previous articles have quickly suggested that people solve all >of their problems by using Zmodem tranfers instead of Kermit. As far as I >know, Zmodem does *not* work on 7-bit networks. I personally would *LOVE* >to compile Zmodem on our VAX but it wouldn't do any good. Sigh. Pardon me for asking, but what is wrong with your VAX??? Ours is running ZMODEM with no problem, other than the fact that the dialout line is hardwired so to make ZMODEM flakey at best. A ZMODEM does exist for VAX/VMS systems. Look around for it. ------- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- | Arnold Gill | | | Queen's University at Kingston | If I hadn't wanted it heard, | | BITNET : gilla@qucdn | I wouldn't have said it. | | X-400 : Arnold.Gill@QueensU.CA | | | INTERNET : gilla@qucdn.queensu.ca | | -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Neil Weisenfeld) (03/21/90)
A few of the previous articles have quickly suggested that people solve all of their problems by using Zmodem tranfers instead of Kermit. As far as I know, Zmodem does *not* work on 7-bit networks. I personally would *LOVE* to compile Zmodem on our VAX but it wouldn't do any good. Sigh. Neil | | Neil Weisenfeld | InterNet: weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | | |O| Univ. of Pennsylvania | |O| | | Computer and Info Sciences | USPS: 3700 Spruce St. Box 572 | | |O| Class of 1991 | Philadelphia, PA 19104 |O| | | | | |O| "It's so simple, maybe you need a refresher course!" |O| | | -If you don't know who said it, you don't deserve to. | |
george@shumv1.uucp (George Browning) (03/21/90)
In article <21955@netnews.upenn.edu> weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Neil Weisenfeld) writes: >A few of the previous articles have quickly suggested that people solve all >of their problems by using Zmodem tranfers instead of Kermit. As far as I >know, Zmodem does *not* work on 7-bit networks. I personally would *LOVE* >to compile Zmodem on our VAX but it wouldn't do any good. Sigh. > >Neil > I run zmodem with E71 a bunch and it seems to work perfectly. I use the unix program sz and rz (which are by Omen, I think I got them at nasa.ames) and Telemate 2.00 Since everyone is talking about their favorite terminal packages, I would like to put in a plug for Telemate. It is simply the best I've ever used. I tried telix, qmodem 4, procomm, bt-powercomm, and professional Yamm. None of these comes close to what Telemate does. Qmodem was real nice, but since zmodem wasn't built in it was a pain. All of telemate multi-tasks. It has a built in editor, file viewer, and on line help. It makes good use of the mouse, and the keyboard controls make sense. Since it all multi-tasks, you can edit or view a file while downloading or uploading (this is really handy). It emulates a VT102 terminal, and I've had no problems running vi or any other unix stuff with 'set term=vt100' In addition it supports a slew of protocols (with space for your own), and supports 25-50 line modes, with many in between (I've never seen anything like it, 32 lines on CGA). There is a scipt langauge too that I haven't even started to play with (it comes with a bunch of examples, including a host mode script). Telemate is the nicest piece of Shareware I've ever used or seen (next to Fractint)... - Jeff _____________________________________________________________________ | George Browning North Carolina State University | | george@shumv1.ncsu.edu Raleigh, NC | |___________________________________________________________________|
wagner@matisse.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner) (03/22/90)
CBIP.Ders, Thanks for all the helpful messages in response to my questions about Kermit and Telix. I feel like I'm probably taking the wimp way out, but one local poster let me ftp a copy of Columbia MSKERMIT 3.00, and that looks fine for now. I'm a comp sci student, and all I ever do is log into one system and occasionally transfer files. MSKERMIT seems to live peacefully with vi and does fine file transfers. Telix still seems pretty neat, and I may get around to trying some of the suggested remedies *after* this semester is over. Thanks again for your help. Mike Wagner wagner@dopey.cd.unc.edu wagner@cahaba.med.unc.edu
jmerrill@jarthur.Claremont.EDU (Confusion Reigns) (03/22/90)
In article <21955@netnews.upenn.edu> weisen@eniac.seas.upenn.edu.UUCP (Neil Weisenfeld) writes: >A few of the previous articles have quickly suggested that people solve all >of their problems by using Zmodem tranfers instead of Kermit. As far as I >know, Zmodem does *not* work on 7-bit networks. I personally would *LOVE* >to compile Zmodem on our VAX but it wouldn't do any good. Sigh. As of the January 1990 release of DSZ/ZCOMM/PRO-YAM, Zmodem *does* work on 7-bit lines. It now uses an 8th-bit quoting system similar to, but apparently more efficient than, Kermit's. Unfortunately, Omen Technologies, in its dubious wisdom, stopped releasing the source code for the RZ and SZ programs after the May 1989 version. It is now only available in the "Zmodem Developer's Collection", which costs $89. Or perhaps they just haven't written a new version...Would someone on Compu$erve ask them? -- Jason Merrill jmerrill@jarthur.claremont.edu DISCLAIMER: Bork! Bork! Bork!
bolte@exunido.uucp (Dirk Bolte) (05/31/90)
In article <PgowJ2w162w@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes: > >(Of course, one wonders why you would even want to use Procomm when >there exists a superior program, Telix, but we're not discussing >that now.) > >-- >Marc Unangst Hello guys. Since now I'm only working with PROCOMM, but everyone talks about the *superior* TELIX. Would anyone be so kind to mail me, where I can get a copy of it? Or post a copy via e-mail. Thanks in advance. Dirk.
skesterk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane Kesterke) (05/20/91)
Anyone out there use the terminal program Telix? I just recently went from Procomm to Telix but I can't seem to get Telix put my modem into dial mode. I have a Zoom Hayes compatable. I checked the dial-up parameters and it uses the prefix ATDT and the suffix ^M. What's wrong with the configuration? Thanks for any help out there!