[comp.simulation] SIMULATION DIGEST V16 N7

simulation@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu (Moderator: Paul Fishwick) (07/09/90)

Volume: 16, Issue: 7, Mon Jul  9 09:29:18 EDT 1990

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(1) Standard Model Interface
(2) RE: Virtual Reality and Simulation
(3) Transporting BONeS Databases
(4) RE: Terminology in Simulation
(5) Workshop on Geometric Modeling

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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 90 12:47:33 EDT
From: randy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (RANDALL SCHRICKEL (NCE) x7661)
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Subject: Standard Model Interface
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This is a very general question, for which there may be many or no answers,
but I'm hoping for some ideas/suggestions/pointers.

What I'm looking at as a research project is just what the subject says. That
is, we have some graphics software that runs on top of an Ingres database.
Input for the graphics comes from stuff we type in ourselves - ship or plane
velocities, positions, etc. We'd like to be able to easily input data from
many other simulations or models and display their output as well. I guess we 
could write programs to extract the necessary data from the output and format
it for our use, but that is rather cumbersome and inelegant. At least at our
department level we should be able to define some standards for model outputs
so we could use the data directly. If it was really useful, maybe it could 
become some sort of REAL standard, so we could use any model.

Does something like this exist? Is there already a standard format that all
models could output so we could handle it easily? We're running UNIX, so a 
tougher question is what about a communication standard between models that
would let the exchange of data happen in real-time, and not just be an offline
data conversion problem.

As I said, this is rather vague, mainly because we really don't know what we
want to do. I can try to clarify if you need more info. Any ideas, thoughts,
or pointers to stuff that's already been researched would be most useful.

Thanx in advance.

 -- 
	Randy Schrickel randy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
	Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
	Laurel, MD 20723
	"Life goes on, long after the thrill of living has gone."



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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 90 12:50 PDT
From: Ethan A. Scarl <eas@atc.boeing.com>
Subject: Re:  An Irrelevant comment on SIMULATION DIGEST V16 N6
To: fishwick@fish.cis.ufl.edu
Cc: ethan@atc.boeing.com

  >> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 90 14:23:07 EST
  >> From: Richard E. Nance - SRC <srcnance@popeye.cs.vt.edu>
  >> To: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
  >> Subject: Virtual Reality vs. Simulation
  >> Cc: fishwick@fish.cis.ufl.edu
  >> 
  >> 
  >>    . . .                                          Nevertheless,
  >> I offer the observation that all too often, basic principles
  >> are overlooked that when considered lead to instant insight.
  >>    . . . 
  >> A model is an abstraction of reality, and in the earlier
  >> philosophical treatment by Churchman (as I recall), reality
  >> is not a model.  . . . 

That last is NOT a verifiable assertion, although I grant that computational
requirements for running this model are imposing.

	Ethan Scarl



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Date: Thu, 5 Jul 90 14:53:47 PDT
From: smyers@luna.hac.com (Steven Myers)
To: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu
Subject: Transporting BONeS databases
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Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

I would like to know if it is possible to share BONeS databases
between two seperate BONeS installations.  The particular situation I
am in is that there have been some BONeS databases developed at a
local university (UC Irvine) which I would like to use.  To
incorporate their database into any of my existing simulations I need to
somehow place it into my BONeS installation.  I can easily copy the
directory containing the database on to my system.  The problem is how
do I get my copy of BONeS to recognize it.

Any help would be appreciated.

 -- Steven





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Date: Fri, 6 Jul 90 15:14:03 EST
From: Richard E. Nance - SRC <srcnance@popeye.cs.vt.edu>
To: dschwartz@mentor.com
Subject: Terminology
Cc: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu


Check my paper in Communications ACM for terminology which
is driven by object oriented principles from Simula 67
and attribute description from Simscript II.  The full
reference is
    
     The Time and State Relationships in Simulation Modeling
     Communications ACM, v. 24, no. 4, April 1981, pp. 173-179.

Careful terminology development derived from a system
theoretic characterization is to be found in the two books
by Bernard P. Zeigler

     Theory of Modeling and Simulation
     John Wiley, 1976

     Multifaceted Modeling and Discrete Event Simulation
     Academic Press, 1984

A standardization project, headed by Oryal Tanir, may have
done some work on terminology, but I am not sure.  Phone
number for Mr. Tanir is (514) 468-5524.

Richard E. Nance




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                   Workshop on Geometric Modeling
                      IMPA - Rio de Janeiro
                        January 9-11, 1991

MAIN TOPICS

 - Parametric Curves and Surfaces
 - Simplicial and Algebraic Methods in Geometric Modeling
 - Solid Modeling
 - Physically-Based Models
 - Modeling Systems and Software
 - Contributions on other aspects of Geometric Modeling are also welcome.

INVITED SPEAKERS

The following researchers have already announced their participation:

 - E. Allgower (Colorado State University)
 - B. Barsky (University of California, Berkeley)
 - G. Farin (Arizona State University)
 - R. Farouki (IBM T. J. Watson Research Center)
 - M. Gattass (PUC-Rio)
 - D. Gossard (MIT)
 - C. Hoffman (Purdue University)
 - M. M\"antyl\"a (Helsinki University of Technology)
 - A. Requicha (University of Southern California)
 - D. Terzopoulos (University of Toronto and Schlumberger)

GENERAL INFORMATION

The program of the workshop includes tutorial lectures by the invited
speakers and sessions for contributed papers.
During the week immediately following the workshop (January 14-18, 1991)
short courses and more specialized lectures will be offered by some of the
invited speakers.

Those interested in presenting papers should send a typed summary (no
more than 4 double-spaced pages) to the Organizing Committee before
November 1st, 1990.  Oral presentation of such papers should last no more
than 20 minutes.

STEERING COMMITTEE

Elon Lages Lima (IMPA)
Jacob Palis (IMPA)
Danillo L. Pedreira (IBM of Brazil)
Jose' Paulo Schiffini (IBM of Brazil)

@ITEM = ORGANIZING COMMITTEE

Paulo C. P. Carvalho (IMPA)
Jonas de Miranda Gomes (IMPA)
Roberto Kopp (IBM of Brazil)
Luiz Fernando Martha (PUC-RJ)
Geovan Tavares (PUC-RJ)
Demetri Terzopoulos (University of Toronto & Schlumberger}

For further information, write to:

WORKSHOP ON GEOMETRIC MODELING
IMPA
Estrada D. Castorina 110      			PHONE:  (55)(21) 294-9032
22460 Rio de Janeiro, RJ			FAX:    (55)(21) 512-4115
Brazil						E-MAIL: geow@LNCC.bitnet

(if you request information by e-mail, please include your regular
mail address, so that we will be able to send you printed material.)




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