[comp.mail.sendmail] uunet catch-22: help!

lepreau@utah-cs.UUCP (Jay Lepreau) (09/30/88)

Edward Vielmetti writes:
	from the ping data, which shows lots of dropped
	packets and widely variable times (from 1000 ms to 13000 ms) and 
	occasional 'network unreachable' errors, I'd conclude that the
	poor arpanet imp at the center for seisic studies is completely
	saturated, and it's dropping packets left and right.
	I'd appreciate it if someone closer to the action bore this
	out.

We have the same problem and at first I suspected the same cause but
it's definitely not that.  We had similar horrible ping times, until
I changed our routing tables to route to uunet directly through our
attached Arpanet interface, and have had consistent  ping times of about
600ms.  However, we still can't complete a connection to port 25, but
can to other ports.  Mail sent in a loop thru other seismo sites and
then thru uunet back to us does get through. So there is some
interaction between the network or client host name and the sendmail
server.  I've tried from elsewhere on the net also, to no avail.

We've tried to contact Rick Adams but he's away (probably at Interop)
and know of no other phone numbers.  This is a big problem and a Bad
Thing.  I have started other phone tracers which may come through
today.   Guess will start packet tracing if things don't get better
soon.  Rich Salz, I dunno why you insist on being so coy about who
runs things at uunet when there's a legitimate problem like this.
Meanwhile, the network has tons of mail being sent back to users since
this has now been going on for more than 3 days.

Jay Lepreau

rsalz@bbn.com (Rich Salz) (10/01/88)

In <5756@utah-cs.UUCP>, lepreau@cs.utah.edu (Jay Lepreau) writes:
>  Rich Salz, I dunno why you insist on being so coy about who
>runs things at uunet when there's a legitimate problem like this.
I don't publish people's phone numbers without their prior permission.
SRI-NIC lists Rick Adams as the contact person, along with a phone.
If you have the problem of not being able to maintain SMTP connections,
then you have the means to work on a solution -- the NIC whois database...
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pjg@tahoe.unr.edu (Paul Graham) (10/03/88)

In article <1105@fig.bbn.com>, rsalz@bbn (Rich Salz) writes:
>In <5756@utah-cs.UUCP>, lepreau@cs.utah.edu (Jay Lepreau) writes:
>>  Rich Salz, I dunno why you insist on being so coy about who
>>runs things at uunet when there's a legitimate problem like this.
>I don't publish people's phone numbers without their prior permission.
[and other stuff about Internet tools]

Well if you're reading news you can probably look in the map files.  Say
d.usa.va.1 and find (from the horses mouth as it were).

#N	.uu.net, uunet
#O	UUNET Communications Services
#C	Donnalyn Frey
#E	uunet!postmaster
#T	+1 703 764 9789
#P	P.O. Box 2685, Fairfax, VA 22031
#W	rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams); Thu Aug 18 16:10:54 EDT 1988

Ordinarily I'd chide something like this posting but in this case the
chance to tweak at something that might sound like Internet chauvinism to
the uninitiated is too much to resist.  As Henry Mensch points out the
number for the postmaster at uunet is hardly secret and is readily
available to those who know where to look.  Rich was being cautious not
coy, albeit unnecessarily so.

Shoot I thought everybody read those maps as bedtime stories.
(Sorry if you were following this in tcp-ip)
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