elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be (10/05/89)
- We are using our Ultrix 3.1 MicrovaxII as a major Gateway between a
local campus DECnet network (consisting mainly of VMS hosts) and the
outside world with respect to e-mail (and Usenet news).
User's on the VMS side can send e-mail using a syntax like
ULTRIX-GATEWAY::"e-mail-address" in VMS Mail.
Now to the outside world however we would like to hide the fact
that this Ultrix Gateway was used in order to send this mail i.e:
we would like this To address to appear to it's recipient just like :
e-mail-address # without any quotes in it !
Now it's rather easy using sendmail to rewrite an adress like
ULTRIX-GATEWAY::"e-mail-address" into "e-mail-address"
(using something like R$-::$+ $2 # for instance).
But as stated above this result in a To line looking
like ---> To: "e-mail-address".
I'd be very interesting to know (having spend lot's of hours into this one)
whether there's any way at all to get rid of the quotes as well!
--
Marc Elsen (System Manager/Software Engineer)
Katholieke Universiteit Leuven
Dep. E.S.A.T.
Kard. Mercierlaan 94
3030 HEVERLEE
Belgium
tel. 32(0)16220931(ext. 1080)
EMAIL : elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
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psi%02062166012::elsen (PSI MAIL)wcf@psuhcx.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) (10/11/89)
In article <1634.252b15c7@esat.kuleuven.ac.be> elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be writes: | Now it's rather easy using sendmail to rewrite an adress like | ULTRIX-GATEWAY::"e-mail-address" into "e-mail-address" | (using something like R$-::$+ $2 # for instance). | | But as stated above this result in a To line looking | like ---> To: "e-mail-address". | | I'd be very interesting to know (having spend lot's of hours into this one) | whether there's any way at all to get rid of the quotes as well! I suppose you've already tried R$-::"$+" $2 If sendmail doesn't parse the quotes as being seperate tokens, you may be completely out of luck. I just tried sendmail -bt, it saved a quoted string as one complete token. I think you're out of luck. At least, it'll take someone smarter that I to help you. :-) Bill -- Bitnet: wcf@psuhcx.bitnet Bill Fenner | aaaaaaaaa Internet: wcf@hcx.psu.edu | r UUCP: {gatech,rutgers}!psuvax1!psuhcx!wcf | g Fido: Sysop at 1:129/87 (814/238 9633) \hogbbs!wcf | h
moore@betelgeuse.cs.utk.edu (Keith Moore) (10/14/89)
In article <1634.252b15c7@esat.kuleuven.ac.be> elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be writes: > > - We are using our Ultrix 3.1 MicrovaxII as a major Gateway between a >local campus DECnet network (consisting mainly of VMS hosts) and the >outside world with respect to e-mail (and Usenet news). > > User's on the VMS side can send e-mail using a syntax like > ULTRIX-GATEWAY::"e-mail-address" in VMS Mail. > > Now to the outside world however we would like to hide the fact > that this Ultrix Gateway was used in order to send this mail i.e: > we would like this To address to appear to it's recipient just like : > > e-mail-address # without any quotes in it ! [...] > I'd be very interesting to know (having spend lot's of hours into this one) > whether there's any way at all to get rid of the quotes as well! >-- > Marc Elsen (System Manager/Software Engineer) > Katholieke Universiteit Leuven [...] > EMAIL : elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be I attacked this problem once and never found a way to do this with sendmail, precisely because sendmail's tokenizer treats (correctly, I think) quoted strings a single tokens. It would be nice if sendmail had a way to match a quoted string on the left hand side of a rewrite rule and ways to unquote a quoted string and to intelligently quote a series of tokens on the right hand side. There are lots of problems with converting the VMS MAIL To: header to an RFC822 To: header -- many VMS MAIL addresses are syntactally incorrect in the RFC822 world, and there's no guarantee that even the simple single-token addresses in the To: line are actually valid names for mail recipients -- they could be VMS logical names used as mail aliases. (Just imagine what an RFC822 mail program does when trying to reply to all recipients of a message that has a header like: To: @device:filename.ext) So I wrote my own VMS MAIL gateway program to replace DEC's mail11dv3. It uses MAIL-11 envelope addresses (not header addresses) to generate an RFC822-compliant To: header, removing unnecessary quoting characters in the process. For mail sent from the VMS system through the gateway the effect is exactly as you describe, e.g., mail to UTKCS::"moore@betelgeuse.cs.utk.edu" will show up on betelgeuse.cs.utk.edu as being addressed to simply moore@betelgeuse.cs.utk.edu . It also converts return addresses into domain names if you wish -- so mail from DECnet address UTKVX::USER appears as from user@utkvx.utk.edu . Anyway, if you want it, it is available for anonymous ftp from cs.utk.edu (128.169.201.1), directory readonly/mail11, files mail11d.shar (this is the incoming mail-11 gateway), and mail11.shar (this is the outgoing mail-11 gateway). Let me know if you don't have ftp access and I'll mail them to you. Keith Moore Internet: moore@cs.utk.edu University of Tenn. CS Dept. BITNET: moore@utkvx 107 Ayres Hall, UT Campus UT Decnet: utkcs::moore Knoxville Tennessee 37996-1301 Telephone: +1 615 974 0822
peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu (Leonard J. Peirce) (10/19/89)
In article <1689@psuhcx.psu.edu> wcf@psuhcx.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes: >In article <1634.252b15c7@esat.kuleuven.ac.be> elsen@esat.kuleuven.ac.be writes: . [...] >| I'd be very interesting to know (having spend lot's of hours into this one) >| whether there's any way at all to get rid of the quotes as well! > >I suppose you've already tried R$-::"$+" $2 >If sendmail doesn't parse the quotes as being seperate tokens, you may be >completely out of luck. > >I just tried sendmail -bt, it saved a quoted string as one complete token. >I think you're out of luck. At least, it'll take someone smarter that I >to help you. :-) > This was supposed to be fixed in ULTRIX 3.1.... I tried getting sendmail to parse the double quotes, too. I don't think it can be done in the .cf file. If you had the source you could probably hack it up but that isn't the solution. I finally decided that the problem is mail11dv3. It isn't stripping the double quotes off when it gets mail from a VMS system. Sendmail treats the double-quoted stuff as one token and it barfs. A kind person from DEC sent me a patched copy of mail11dv3 and it works fine. E-mail me if you want a copy. I'm not sure if the 3.0 version will work with 3.1 but it might be a good idea to keep the working 3.0 version around just in case. Side note: If you don't want to use double quotes on the VMS side, you can use To: ULTRIX::user%host.domain Apparently, the double quotes are needed because the VMS mailer doesn't like @ characters. ----- Leonard J. Peirce Internet: peirce@gumby.cc.wmich.edu Western Michigan University peirce@gw.wmich.edu Academic Computer Center UUCP: ...!uunet!sharkey!wmichgw!peirce Kalamazoo, MI 49008 Phone: (616) 387-5469 This is STILL the Al Franken Decade.....