[comp.mail.sendmail] Comp.groupware wins sci.groupware vote

stodol@freja.diku.dk (David Stodolsky) (12/07/89)

I received a total of 222 votes (not counting duplicates) by 13:00 UTC, 
December 5, 1989, including a correction (resulting from a voter's mailing 
error) and six votes that were sent on time, but arrived late. 175 persons 
supported creation of the groups. 164 supported the most preferred name, 
comp.groupware(.f). The proposal passes if the "Yes" - "No" > 100 rule of the 
current Guidelines is used, since the vote outcome calculated this way (Total 
- 2 * "No") is 128. The newsgroups comp.groupware and comp.groupware.f will be 
created. Comp.groupware is for original posts, followups to these posts should 
be directed to comp.groupware.f.

Comp.groupware will cover all types of hardware and software for facilitating 
group interaction. This includes what is termed orgware. 

If you prefer to receive the posts by mail, send me a request to be placed on 
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them. If you can help set up the mailing lists, please let me know what 
assistance you can offer. 

I will initially cross post some comp.groupware material of general interest 
to news.groups. If you see one of these crossposts in news.groups, but not in 
comp.groupware, tell your news administrator you would like to get the 
comp.groupware newsgroups. (This assumes you try to read comp.groupware 
first.)


You can check the vote count by successively removing the following letters 
from the beginning of vote lines below, using a search and replace function. 
The number following each letter shows the number of times the replacement 
occurred:

y   6
s  33
n  47
c 164

Note that these numbers are not always the first choice of each vote. Those 
were:

y   6
s  33
n  47
c 136

Total = 222
Total - n = 175
"Yes" - "No" (= total - 2n) = 175 - 47 = 128

I have reposted to news.groups a worked example of Single Transferrable Vote 
counting that assumes retention of all "no" votes (the method used here).


+--< Start your search and replace here (on the line above the first vote).
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c   Allan Kuchinsky <kuchinsk@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>
c   bdb%becker@relay.EU.net (Bruce Becker)
c   Bengt Larsson <bengtl@maths.lth.se>
c   bud@ucrmath.ucr.edu Sat Nov 18 19:55:58 1989
c   Chris.Rusbridge@levels.sait.oz.au
c   dab@jhereg.Minnetech.MN.ORG (David A. Bright)
c   dalamb@qucis.queensu.ca Tue Oct 31 20:01:09 1989
c   Dan Boyarski <dan+@andrew.cmu.edu>
c   db@East.Sun.COM (David Brownell)
c   don%dons3b1@relay.EU.net (Don Joslyn)
c   dricejb@drilex.DRI.MGH.COM (Craig Jackson drilex1)
c   dunc@grads.cs.ubc.ca (Duncan Stickings)
c   eeg@frame.UUCP (Eric Griswold)
c   eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
c   fletcher@hplabs.hp.com
c   gnf3e@bbibbi.cs.virginia.edu
c   Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald.Alvestrand@vax.runit.unit.uninett>
c   Harry Forsdick <forsdick@diamond.bbn.com>
c   horn@garfield.cs.wisc.edu
c   jjsc@inf.rl.ac.uk
c   Jonathan Levine <jlevine@crash.oracle.com>
c   klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
c   Lyn Pemberton <lynnp@COGS.SUSSEX.AC.UK>
c   Maarten Litmaath <maart@cs.vu.nl>
c   mackeown@compsci.bristol.ac.uk
c   Michael Trogni <mike@pasteur.cvm.uiuc.edu>
c   Niels Mayer <mayer@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>
c   pmorriso@gara.une.oz.au (Perry Morrison MATH)
c   pz@apple.com (Peter Zukoski)
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c   sommerfeld@apollo.com (Bill Sommerfeld)
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c   Thomas I. M. Ho" <TOMHO@PURCCVM.bitnet>
c   unccab@med.unc.edu (Charles Balan)
c   var@iris.brown.edu (Victor A. Riley)
c   wcs@ho95c.att.com (William Clare Stewart)
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cn  Fraser S. <fraser@lake.scar.utoronto.ca>
cn  lars@salt.acc.com (Lars J Poulsen)
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cs  bwk@mbunix.mitre.org (Kort)
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cs  craig@com2serv.c2s.mn.org (Craig S. Wilson)
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cs  Dan McCue <Dan.McCue@newcastle.ac.uk>
cs  dawson@caen.engin.umich.edu (Alice Furumoto-Dawson)
cs  Dongman Lee <dlee@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com>
cs  ebrynjo@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
cs  esf00@amdahl.amdahl.com (Elliott S. Frank)
cs  F0MB000 <F0MB@USOUTHAL.BITNET>
cs  florijn@serc.nl (Gert Florijn)
cs  Gary Fariss <fariss@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
cs  Grant Hogarth <USERGF8C@RPITSMTS.BITNET>
cs  hargrove%harlie.corp@sgi.com (Mark Hargrove)
cs  Jack Jansen <jack@piring.cwi.nl>
cs  Janet Barnes-Farrell <BARNESF@UCONNVM.BITNET>
cs  Jeff Williamson <magik@norby.acns.nwu.edu>
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cs  Jim Ault <ault@pawl.rpi.edu>
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cs  Johan Vromans <jv@mh.nl>
cs  John DiMarco <jdd@db.toronto.edu>
cs  John Streich <streich@milton.u.washington.edu>
cs  Jose Diaz-Gonzalez <jdg0@gte.com>
cs  jp@frog Fri Nov  3 13:18:52 1989
cs  larryw%cognos@relay.EU.net (Larry Williams)
cs  lemon%hplmjl@hplabs.hp.com
cs  lowe@grads.cs.ubc.ca (David Lowe)
cs  lsr@apple.com (Larry Rosenstein)
cs  luong@wsl.dec.com (Daphne Huetu Luong)
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cs  Mark Abel <markabel@uswest.com>
cs  Mike Northam ext 2651 <mbn@sns4.UUCP>
cs  mis@Seiden.com (Mark Seiden)
cs  moss%takahe@cs.umass.edu (Eliot Moss)
cs  msa@tel4.tel.vtt.fi (Markku Savela)
cs  msmith@topaz.rutgers.edu (Mark Robert Smith)
cs  mujica@CS.UCLA.EDU (S. Mujica)
cs  murphy%mfci@relay.EU.net (Tom Murphy)
cs  netmgr@finsun.CSC.FI
cs  newman%inco@relay.EU.net (Bo Newman)
cs  norman%cogsci@ucsd.edu (Donald A Norman-UCSD Cog Sci Dept)
cs  palvarez@ucsd.edu
cs  Per Danielsson  <pd@sics.se>
cs  Peter Clitherow <pc@ctt.ctt.bellcore.com>
cs  rca@cs.brown.edu
cs  Sally Laughon <LAUGHON@VTVM1.bitnet>
cs  Saul Greenberg <saul@calarc.ARC.CA>
cs  Sean Hayes <esh@hplb.hpl.hp.com>
cs  SF105@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK
cs  skip@claris.UUCP (Brian Schipper)
cs  smithr%ast@relay.EU.net (Richard H. E. Smith II)
cs  SPAJ710@UTXVM.BITNET
cs  spencer@crim.eecs.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas)
cs  Steve Cisler <sac@apple.com>
cs  steve@cfht.cfht.hawaii.edu (Steven Smith)
cs  steve@txsil.lonestar.org (Steve McConnel)
cs  sukumar@emx.utexas.edu (Sukumar Rathnam)
cs  taylor@rand.org (David G. Taylor)
cs  Thierry.Gandilhon@cediag.bull.fr
cs  tneff%bfmny0@uunet.UU.NET (Tom Neff)
cs  Todd.Kaufmann@NL.CS.CMU.EDU
cs  twl@cs.brown.edu Fri Nov 17 18:14:53 1989
cs  wake@11srus.enet.dec.com (17-Nov-1989 0852)
cs  weh@SEI.CMU.EDU
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cs  winffww@dutrun.tudelft.nl (F.W.Wierda)
cs  wombat@largo.key.com (Joan Eslinger)
cs  yyang@frame.UUCP (Yeong Yang)
csn phil@wubios.WUstl.EDU (J. Philip Miller)
n   amanda@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen)
n   Aydin Edguer <edguer@alpha.ces.cwru.edu>
n   Ben Yalow <YBMCU@CUNYVM.bitnet>
n   blm@6sceng.UUCP
n   Bob Sloane <SLOANE@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
n   bwalker@marlin.nosc.mil (Beth Walker)
n   cej%ll1a@relay.EU.net
n   cew@venera.isi.edu (Craig E. Ward)
n   chip@vector.dallas.tx.us (Chip Rosenthal)
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n   Craig Leres <leres@helios.ee.lbl.gov>
n   csg@pyramid.pyramid.com (Carl S. Gutekunst)
n   Dan Schlitt <dan@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>
n   David C Lawrence <tale@pawl.rpi.edu>
n   David Herron -- One of the vertebrae <david@ms.uky.edu>
n   dietz@cs.rochester.edu
n   dwillis@polyslo.CalPoly.EDU (Alden Willis)
n   emv@math.lsa.umich.edu
n   fitz@wang.WANG.COM (Tom Fitzgerald)
n   Gene Spafford <spaf@cs.purdue.edu>
n   Greely <jgreely@cis.ohio-state.edu>
n   jfm@ruddles.sprl.umich.edu (John Mansfield)
n   John Robert LoVerso <loverso@Xylogics.COM>
n   kaul@icarus.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rich Kaul)
n   kebera%alzabo@relay.EU.net (Krishna E. Bera)
n   kevin@math.lsa.umich.edu
n   lyndon%myrias%cs@relay.EU.net (Lyndon Nerenberg)
n   mehl@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Mark M Mehl)
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n   Mitchell Spector <spector@sumax.UUCP>
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n   pmm@mips.com (Paul M. Moriarty)
n   rae%repo242%alias@uunet.UU.NET (Reid Ellis)
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n   Rich Salz <rsalz@bbn.com>
n   Richard H. Miller <rick@pavlov.bcm.tmc.edu>
n   Rob Sartin <sartin@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>
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n   schinder@tcgould.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Paul Schinder)
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n   tar@ksuvax1.cis.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey)
n   wayne%dsndata@relay.EU.net (Wayne Schlitt)
nc  jad@dayton.DHDSC.MN.ORG (J. Deters)
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s   BICKER CLIFF" <amiga-relay-request@nwc.navy.mil>
s   dave@cmi.com (David Halonen)
s   flor%cogsci@ucsd.edu (Nick Flor)
s   ifab750@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu (Matthew S. Cohen)
s   ksand@appleoz.usg.apple.oz.au (Kent Sandvik)
s   Patrick.Hayes@cediag.bull.fr
s   rwright%novavax@relay.EU.net (Ronald K. Wright)
sc  Alain Giboin <Alain.Giboin@mirsa.inria.fr>
sc  andy@savoy.Berkeley.EDU (Andy Lieberman)
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sc  Bill Hillgartner <AD38@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
sc  David W. Price" <C300151@UMCVMB.bitnet>
sc  daw%teraida@relay.EU.net (Don Walters)
sc  Don Dwiggins <dwiggins@ashtate.A-T.COM>
sc  gimlichb@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Bob Gimlich - Zoology)
sc  Hans Werner Bitzer <hw@ta.olivetti.com>
sc  hassell@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Christopher Hassell)
sc  jasj@whutt.att.com (James A Snow)
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sc  Jeff Hodges <hodges@jessica.Stanford.EDU>
sc  joann@prism.tmc.com (JoAnn Brooks)
sc  keegan@sungod.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan)
sc  mfidelma@BBN.COM
sc  mhumi@wpi.wpi.edu (Mayer Humi)
sc  MWolf@granite.cr.bull.com
sc  Paul Dourish <dourish@arisia.Xerox.COM>
sc  Rich Haller <RHALLER@oregon.uoregon.edu>
sc  Richard Fozzard <fozzard@boulder.Colorado.EDU>
sc  richardt@mica.berkeley.edu (Richard Threadgill)
sc  Sean Philip Engelson <engelson-sean@YALE.EDU>
sc  Stacy Weaver <stacy@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>
sc  Terry Simmons <tls@uswest.com>
scn David Stodolsky <stodol@diku.dk>
y   Clark  Quinn <quinn@unix.cis.pitt.edu>
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David S. Stodolsky, PhD      Routing: <@uunet.uu.net:stodol@diku.dk>
Department of Psychology                  Internet: <stodol@diku.dk>
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tr@pcharming.ctt.bellcore.com (tom reingold) (12/13/89)

Why is it that news about newsgroups is sent to comp.mail.*
newsgroups?  Is it appropriate and I just don't see why?  Or is it that
many people independently get the same silly idea?

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