[comp.mail.sendmail] Info on Sendmail Configuration Package UK-2.1

gaguiar@pinocchio.encore.com (George Aguiar-Consultant) (01/06/91)

Does anyone have an opinion on the above mentioned package?  Is it
really better than hacking sendmail.cf directly?  Is 2.1 the most up
to date release?  Is there any other PD software that accomplishes the
same thing?  ( ie. generate sendmail.cf file )

Thanks in advance, 
--gaguiar

rknight@gec-rl-hrc.co.uk (Roger Knight (B21)) (01/10/91)

In article <13738@encore.Encore.COM> gaguiar@pinocchio.encore.com (George Aguiar-Consultant) writes:
>Does anyone have an opinion on the above mentioned package?  Is it
>really better than hacking sendmail.cf directly?  Is 2.1 the most up
>to date release?  Is there any other PD software that accomplishes the
>same thing?  ( ie. generate sendmail.cf file )
>
>Thanks in advance, 
>--gaguiar

I used UK-Sendmail #2.1 to set up the configuration for our Apollo network
and it is certainly easier than hacking sendmail.cf, it is also completly
different to the .cf file. UK-Sendmail provides an "MMDF-like" interface,
you write a set of "domain tables" which re-write addresses to their full
form and a set of "channel tables" which specify the routes to get to certain
hosts/domains. UK-Sendmail then compiles that into a customised .cf file.
Unlike sendmail the distribution contains a tutorial and a set of examples
to get you going. With a bit of trickery it is quite easy to get UK-Sendmail
to produce a .cf file which will put your host name into msg headers for
local destinations (i.e. hosts on the same ethernet) and correct domain names
for msgs to the outside world.

One posible problem: it was written for use in the UK JANET network which
uses big-endian addresses. However there is a switch to reverse addresses so
they are little-endian for the rest of the world so it might work OK.

Version 2.1 is the latest release (and probably the last, the authors having
left their University Depts. for "real" jobs). Unfortunatly the initial
distribution had 2 minor bugs. These have been fixed on the version from
Imperial College (doc.ic.uk) but may be present in other copies. I can
mail/post details if requested.

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mike@chorus.fr (Mike Bayliss) (01/14/91)

>>>>> On 10 Jan 91 15:29:20 GMT, rknight@gec-rl-hrc.co.uk (Roger
>>>>> Knight (B21)) said:

Roger> In article <13738@encore.Encore.COM>
Roger> gaguiar@pinocchio.encore.com (George Aguiar-Consultant) writes:
>Does anyone have an opinion on the above mentioned package?  Is it
>really better than hacking sendmail.cf directly?  Is 2.1 the most up
>to date release?  Is there any other PD software that accomplishes the
>same thing?  ( ie. generate sendmail.cf file )
>
>Thanks in advance, 
>--gaguiar

Roger> One posible problem: it was written for use in the UK JANET
Roger> network which uses big-endian addresses. However there is a
Roger> switch to reverse addresses so they are little-endian for the
Roger> rest of the world so it might work OK.

It's not a problem, you can generate a sendmail.cf that knows nothing
about JANET addresses, and it works. (If I remember right, it works
internally with little-endian addresses and the JANET switch was just
to let you recognize and convert incoming JANET addresses.)

	mike


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jf@ap.co.umist.ac.uk (John Forrest) (01/16/91)

In article <MIKE.91Jan14143504@drums.chorus.fr>, mike@chorus.fr (Mike Bayliss) writes:
|> >>>>> On 10 Jan 91 15:29:20 GMT, rknight@gec-rl-hrc.co.uk (Roger
|> >>>>> Knight (B21)) said:
|> 
|> Roger> In article <13738@encore.Encore.COM>
|> Roger> gaguiar@pinocchio.encore.com (George Aguiar-Consultant) writes:
|> >Does anyone have an opinion on the above mentioned package?  Is it
|> >really better than hacking sendmail.cf directly?  Is 2.1 the most up
|> >to date release?  Is there any other PD software that accomplishes the
|> >same thing?  ( ie. generate sendmail.cf file )
|> >
|> >Thanks in advance, 
|> >--gaguiar
|> 
|> Roger> One posible problem: it was written for use in the UK JANET
|> Roger> network which uses big-endian addresses. However there is a
|> Roger> switch to reverse addresses so they are little-endian for the
|> Roger> rest of the world so it might work OK.
|> 
|> It's not a problem, you can generate a sendmail.cf that knows nothing
|> about JANET addresses, and it works. (If I remember right, it works
|> internally with little-endian addresses and the JANET switch was just
|> to let you recognize and convert incoming JANET addresses.)

I've forgotton what Uk-sendmail does now with the problem cases:

	cs.man.ac.uk
	uk.ac.man.cs

or at least what they will do with "cs" in the top domain list. There are
rules in the start-up phase that try to spot a reversed (grey-book) address,
and reverse it if so. I can't remember which was round ambiguities work for.
Of course, maybe you can disable all this? I'd recommend you use IDA anyway. 

John Forrest
Dept of Computation
UMIST