[comp.mail.sendmail] help!

rusty@anasaz.UUCP (Rusty Carruth) (05/07/91)

Argh!  Being a carbon-based life-form, I'm having an interesting
problem with a sendmail.cf file on InterActive unix...  :-)

First, the setup:

Machine 1: 386 running AT&T Unix System V R.3 (wins).  name - att386
Machine 2: 386 running Interactive Unix 3.2.2 (I think)name - chad
Machine 3: 386 running InterActive Unix 3.2            name - clyde


Machine 1 has the sendmail.cf file titled "looper" (which I've appended 
to the end of this message, wish this was not such a time-critical problem! -
I apologize for including it, but this is supposed to be fixed by Wed or Thurs!)

When that sendmail.cf file is run on Machines 1 and 2, (note - only the
system name is changed from one system to the other(ok, maybe we changed 
the "who i talk to" as well))... ANyway, when it runs on "att386" or "chad"
"everythign works fine" (as they say).  However, when I attempt to run
it on "clyde", local mail gets into a forever loop, with mail calling sendmail
calling mail calling ......

SO, I tried using the "original" sendmail.cf file (name "original", below)
and modifying it to talk to "anasaz" (the point of this whole exercise, I
might add).  All well and good, except that if I send mail to anasaz!rusty,
I get a bounce message saying "No ! in UUCP!" - AND the mail is delivered
just fine to anasaz!rusty !!!  If I send the mail to clyde!anasaz!rusty,
the mail arrives fine at anasaz!rusty, AND I do NOT get a bounce!

(All mail attempts done using mailx, elm tends to change things too
much)

SO, do I just tell the person using this machine to accept situation 1
(no local mail), or 2 (bounces from working remote mail), or does somene
have a better solution?   :-)  

Oh, one more thing - when I run sendmail -bt and say

    0 anasaz!rusty

I get it resolved to "uux anasaz rusty"
When I say

    0 clyde!anasaz!rusty

I get "smail clyde anasaz!rusty"

And, if I do a uuto <file> anasaz!rusty, I get no bounces!  (i.e. the uuto
worked just fine)

I think maybe I'll take up basketweaving :-)


Ok, here is the "original" sendmail.cf (end marked with "original"):

############################################################
#
#	SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE
#
#	supports internet style addressing
#	over UUCP and ethernet links.
#
#	This configuration file is based on the smail configuration
#	file from the UUCP project.  It's intended purpose is to be
#	a default, simple minded configuration file for those sites
#	that have not yet set up smail, and it's cohorts.
#
#ident	@(#)default.cf	2.2 - 88/12/20
#
############################################################


############################################################
#
#  Local configuration options - HINTS
#
# Host name and domain name macros.
#
#	Dw sets $w
#	DD sets $D
#	CD sets $=D
#
# This configuration file uses the uname default, unless otherwise modified.
# $D and $=D list all domains in which this host sits.
# $D goes into outbound addresses, i.e. "user@$w.$D".
# it will will be turned into $D.
# HOSTNAME needs to be modified for each site (if there is no ethernet).

Dwclyde
DDUUCP
CDLOCAL local uucp

# Preemptive ether connections.  We prefer these connections 
# over both designated transport mechanisms and the general depository.
# You can add more classes (here and in S0).

# /etc/hosts.smtp The list of hosts sites using smtp (tcp/ip-ethernet)
#
FE/etc/hosts.smtp %s

# /usr/lib/uucp/Systems The list of hosts sites connected directly via uucp
#
FU/usr/lib/uucp/Systems %s

# Mock top-level domain names.  These name designate a transport mechanism
# and appear internally only, set in S3, used in S0, and removed in S4 and
# (possibly) the ruleset for the particular mailer.  

CTETHER UUX

# Relay host.  Used at the end of S0 as the general depository for 
# addresses which didn't resolve locally.  

# R is used as the ethernet relay host, S
DRanasaz

#
#  End Local configuration options
#
############################################################

############################################################
#
#	General configuration information
#
############################################################

DVsmail2.2/06-30-87

##########################
#     Special macros     #
##########################

# official hostname
Dj$w.$D
# my name
DnMAILER-DAEMON
# UNIX header format
DlFrom $g  $d
# delimiter (operator) characters
Do.:%@!^=/[]
# format of a total name
Dq$g$?x ($x)$.
# SMTP login message
De$j Sendmail $v/$V ready at $b


###################
#     Options     #
###################

# location of alias file
OA/usr/lib/aliases
# default delivery mode (deliver in background)
Odbackground
# (don't) connect to "expensive" mailers
#Oc
# temporary file mode
OF0644
# default GID
Og1
# location of help file
OH/usr/lib/sendmail.hf
# log level
OL9
# default messages to old style
Oo
# queue directory
OQ/usr/spool/mqueue
# read timeout -- violates protocols
Or2h
# status file
OS/usr/lib/sendmail.st
# queue up everything before starting transmission
Os
# default timeout interval
OT3d
# time zone names (V6 only)
OtPST,PDT
# default UID
Ou1
# wizard's password
OWvoidpasswords

###############################
#     Message precedences     #
###############################

Pfirst-class=0
Pspecial-delivery=100
Pjunk=-100

#########################
#     Trusted users     #
#########################

Troot
Tdaemon
Tuucp
Tnetwork

#############################
#     Format of headers     #
#############################

#H?P?Return-Path: <$g>
H?R?Received: $?sfrom $s 
	$.by $j ($v/$V)
	id $i; $b
H?D?Resent-Date: $a
H?D?Date: $a
H?F?Resent-From: $q
H?F?From: $q
H?x?Full-Name: $x
HSubject:
# HPosted-Date: $a
# H?l?Received-Date: $b
H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>

############################################################
#
#		REWRITING RULES
#


###########################
#			  #
#  Name Canonicalization  #
#			  #
###########################
S3

# basic textual canonicalization
R<>			$@@				turn into magic token
R$*<$+>$*		$2				basic RFC821/822 parsing
R$+ at $+		$1@$2				"at" -> "@" for RFC 822
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				in case recursive

# handle route-addr <@a,@b,@c:user@d> 
R@$+,$+			@$1:$2				change all "," to ":"
R@$+:$+			$@<@$1>:$2			handle <route-addr>
R$+:$*;@$+		$@$1:$2;@$3			list syntax

# Rewrite address into a domain-based address.  Any special mock domain names 
# (like UUX) should be defined on the CT line and removed (if necessary) 
# in S4.  You can use them in S0 for designated transport mechanisms.

# Delimiters with precedence over @.  Add yours here.

# The @ delimiter.  Leave this alone.
R$+@$+			$:$1<@$2>			focus on domain
R$+<$+@$+>		$1$2<@$3>			move gaze right
R$+<@$+>		$@$1<@$2>			already canonical

# Delimiters with precedence below @.  Add yours here.
R$+^$+			$1!$2				convert ^ to !
R$-!$+			$@$2<@$1.UUX>			resolve uucp names
R$+.!$+			$@$2<@$1>			domain.!host
R$+!$+			$@$2<@$1>			domain!host

# % is a low precedence @.
R$*%$*			$@$>3$1@$2			%->@ and retry

############################################################
#
#    		RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE
#
############################################################

S0

# first make canonical
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				defocus
R$+			$:$>3$1				make canonical

# handle special cases.....
R@			$#local$:MAILER-DAEMON		handle <> form
R$*<@[$+]>$*		$#ether$@[$2]$:$1@[$2]$3	numeric internet spec

# strip local stuff
R$*<@$-.$w.$D>$*	$1<@$2>$3			thishost.mydom
R$*<@$-.$D>$*		$1<@$2>$3			mydom
R$*<@$-.$w.$=D>$*	$1<@$2>$4			thishost.anydom
R$*<@$-.$w.$=T>$*	$1<@$2>$4			thishost.mockdom
R$*<$*$w>$*		$1<$2>$3			thishost
R$*<$*.>$*		$1<$2>$3			drop trailing dot
R<@>:$+			$@$>0$1				strip null route, retry
R$+<@>			$@$>0$1				strip null addr, retry


###############################################
#    Machine dependent part of ruleset zero   #
###############################################

# Preemption: for a host on a known link turn the domain spec into a
# mock domain indicating the link.  One set of these rules for each of 
# the F classes listed in the local configuration options.

R$*<$*$=E.$D>$*			$:$1<$2$3.ETHER>$4	etherhost.mydomain
R$*<$*$=E.$=D>$*		$:$1<$2$3.ETHER>$5	etherhost.anydomain
R$*<$*$=E.$=T>$*		$:$1<$2$3.ETHER>$5	etherhost.mock-domain
R$*<$*$=E>$*			$:$1<$2$3.ETHER>$4	etherhost

R$*<$*$=U.$D>$*			$:$1<$2$3.UUX>$4	uucphost.mydomain
R$*<$*$=U.$=D>$*		$:$1<$2$3.UUX>$5	uucphost.anydomain
R$*<$*$=U.$=T>$*		$:$1<$2$3.UUX>$5	uucphost.mock-domain
R$*<$*$=U>$*			$:$1<$2$3.UUX>$4	uucphost

# Designated delivery: use the indicated transport mechanism.  One of
# these rules for each of the mock domains defined in $=T.  You can
# remove these if you just want general disposition.  HINTS.

# Designated delivery:
R$*<@$=U.UUX>$*		$#uux$@$2$:$1$3			known uucphost
R$*<@$=U$+.UUX>$*	$#uux$@$2$:$1@$2$4		known uucphost
R$*<@$=E$+.ETHER>$*	$#ether$@$2$:$1@$2$4		known etherhost
R$*<@$+.ETHER>$*	$#ether$@$2$:$1@$2$3		etherhost

# throw out mock domain name now
R$*<$*.$=T>$*		$1<$2>$4

# General disposition of remote mail (comment out all but one).  You
# might add to this list, if you have other "smarter" mailers.  HINTS.

R$*<@$->:$+		$#smail$@$2$:$1$3		forward to $2
R$*<@$*>$*		$#smail$@$2$:$1$3		hand to uucp
#R$*<@$*>$*		$#smail$@$R$:$1@$2$3		hand to uucp relay
#R$*<@$*>$*		$#ether$@$R$:$1@$2$3		hand to ether relay
#R$*<$*>$*		$#error$:unknown address $1$2$3	don't hand anywhere

# local delivery
R$-			$#local$:$1			user

############################################################
#
# 		Local and Program Mailer specification
#
############################################################

Mlocal, P=/bin/lmail, F=lsDFMhumS, S=10, R=20, A=lmail -s $u
Mremote, P=/bin/mail, F=rlsDFMmn, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u
Mprog,	P=/bin/sh,   F=lsDFMe,   S=10, R=20, A=sh -c $u

S10
#R@			MAILER-DAEMON	errors to mailer-daemon
#R$+<@$+.$j>$*		$1<@$j>$3	hide anydom.$j under $j

S20

############################################################
#
#    		UUCP Mailer specification
#
############################################################

Muux,	P=/usr/bin/uux, F=sDFMuU, S=13, R=23, M=100000,
	A=uux - $h!rmail ($u)
S13
S23

Msmail,	P=/bin/smail, F=sDFMhumR, S=14, R=24, M=100000,
	A=smail -vH$j $h!$u

S14
R$+<@$=E>		$1			user@etherhost -> user
R$*<@$+>$*		$@$1<@$2>$3		already ok
#R$+<@$+.$j>$*		$1<@$j>$3		hide anydom.$j under $j
R$+			$@$1<@$j>		add our full address

S24

############################################################
#
#    		SMTP ethernet mailer
#
############################################################

Mether,	P=[IPC], F=msDFMuCXP, S=11, R=21, A=IPC $h

S11
R$*<@$+>$*		$@$1<@$2>$3		already ok
R$+			$@$1<@$w>		add our hostname

S21

#################################
#  Final Output Post-rewriting  #
#################################

# This rewrites the internal $=T mock domains into their external form.
# The default is to replace the mock domain name with $D.
# The last two lines are stock.

S4
R@			$@				handle <> error addr
R$+<@$-.UUX>		$2!$1				u@host.UUX => host!u
R$*<$*$=T>$*		$:$1<$2$D>$4			change local info
R$*<$+>$*		$1$2$3				defocus
R@$+:$+:$+		$@@$1,$2:$3			<route-addr> canonical


--------end of "original" sendmail.cf--------

And, now, the "looping" sendmail.cf:



# SCCS_ID - "@(#)sendmail.cf (TWG)       1.1     89/02/01 "

###############################################################################
###                                                                         ###
###            sendmail configuration for generic complex host              ###
###                with both UUCP and Internet connections                  ###
###                                                                         ###
###            Erik E. Fair <fair@ucbarpa.berkeley.edu>                     ###
###                                                                         ###
###############################################################################

# Our local domain ($D is added to $w [hostname] for official name in base.m4)
DDUUCP

# All the names we are known by (put all the names & nick names on the next
# line, separated by spaces. If you need another line, begin it with "Cw")
Cwclyde

# Our UUCP name
DU$w

# the list of UUCP hosts that we speak to (same rules as Cw, use the
# output of the "uuname" command; also, when you add or delete a host
# from the L.sys, don't forget to add or delete it here)
CU anasaz tower
CU qip

###############################################################################
###   baseline definitions that sendmail needs to operate                   ###
###############################################################################

##########################
###   Special macros   ###
##########################

DV25

# my official hostname
Dj$w
# my name (the name on mailer bounces)
DnMAILER-DAEMON
# UNIX header format
DlFrom $g $d
# delimiter (operator) characters
Do.:%@!^/[]
# format of a total name
Dq$?x$x <$g>$|$g$.
# SMTP login message
De$j Sendmail $v/$V ready at $b

###################
###   Options   ###
###################

# we have full sendmail support here
Oa
# location of alias file
OA/usr/lib/aliases
# default delivery mode (deliver in background)
#Odbackground
# (don't) connect to "expensive" mailers
#Oc
# temporary file mode
OF0600
# default GID
Og1
# location of help file
OH/usr/lib/sendmail.hf
# log level
OL9
# Send to me too (even if I'm in an alias expansion)
Om
# default messages to old style
Oo
# queue directory
OQ/usr/spool/mqueue
# read timeout -- violates protocols (timeout an SMTP idle for 1/2 hour)
Or30m
# status file
OS/usr/lib/sendmail.st
# queue up everything before starting transmission
Os
# default timeout interval (returns undelivered mail after 3 days)
OT3d
# time zone names (V6 only)
OtPST,PDT
# default UID
Ou1
# encrypted wizard's password (for the undocumented "wiz" SMTP command)
OWnot-likely
# rebuild the aliasfile automagically
#OD
# maximum load average before queueing mail
Ox10
# maximum load average before rejecting connections
OX15

###############################
###   Message precedences   ###
###############################

Pfirst-class=0
Pspecial-delivery=100
Pbulk=-60
Pjunk=-100

#########################
###   Trusted users   ###
#########################

Troot
Tdaemon
Tnews
Tuucp

#############################
###   Format of headers   ###
#############################

H?P?Return-Path: <$g>
HReceived: $?sfrom $s$. by $j$?r with $r$. ($v/$V-eef)
	id $i; $b
H?D?Date: $a
H?F?From: $q
H?x?Full-Name: $x
H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>
HSubject:
H?D?Resent-Date: $a
H?F?Resent-From: $q
H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j>


###############################################################################
#		RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE                                         #
###############################################################################

S0

# first make canonical
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				defocus
R$+			$:$>3$1				make canonical

# handle special cases.....
R@			$#local$:$n			handle <> form
R$*<@[$+]>$*		$#tcp$@[$2]$:$1@[$2]$3		numeric internet spec

# now delete the local info
R$*<$*$=w.UUCP>$*	$1<$2>$4			thishost
R$*<$*$=w.$D>$*		$1<$2>$4			thishost
R$*<$*$=w>$*		$1<$2>$4			thishost
R$*<$*.>$*		$1<$2>$3			drop trailing dot
R<@>:$*			$@$>0$1				retry after route strip
R$*<@>			$@$>0$1				strip null trash & retry

# return uucp mail that looks like decvax!ittvax!marsvax! since it
# will be rejected at the final site with no username on it
R$*!<@$-.UUCP>		$#error$:Destination address truncated



###############################################################################
###   Machine dependent part of ruleset zero (where we decide what to do)   ###
###############################################################################

# resolve UUCP links to hosts known to this machine
R$*<@$=U.UUCP>$*	$#uucp$@$2$:$1			resolve local uucp
R$*<@$=U>$*		$#uucp$@$2$:$1			resolve local uucp

# special case violation of RFC822 for hybrid bang/at addresses
# if uucphost!user@arpahost, forward to uucphost if we speak to it.
R$=U!$+<@$+>$*		$#uucp$@$1$:$2@$3$4

# resolve various and sundry other unofficial networks
R$*<@$+.MAILNET>$*	$#tcp$@mit-multics.arpa$:$1@$2.MAILNET$3	MAILNET
R$*<@$+.BITNET>$*	$#tcp$@wiscvm.wisc.edu$:$1@$2.BITNET$3		BITNET
R$*<@$+.MFENET>$*	$#tcp$@nmfecc.arpa$:$1@$2.MFENET$3		MFENET
R$*<@$+.CSNET>$*	$#tcp$@relay.cs.net$:$1@$2.CSNET$3		CSNET

# Well it isn't a "known" host lets try to find it
R$*<@$+.UUCP>$*		$1<@$2>$3			Just drop the .UUCP
# Look for host name using named
#R$*<@$+>$*		$:$1<@$[$2$]>$3			ask named to resolve


# when all else fails, look up the whole name in the host table
R$*<@$+>$*		$#tcp$@$2$:$1@$2$3			user@domain

# remaining names must be local
R@			$n					fix magic token
R$+			$#local$:$1				everything else

###############################################################################
###   End of ruleset zero                                                   ###
###############################################################################

###########################
#  Name Canonicalization  #
###########################
S3

# handle "from:<>" special case
R<>			$@@				resolve into magic token

# basic textual canonicalization
R$*<$*<$*<$+>$*>$*>$*	$4				3-level <> nesting
R$*<$*<$+>$*>$*		$3				2-level <> nesting
R$*<$+>$*		$2				basic RFC821/822 parsing
R$+ at $+		$1@$2				"at" -> "@" for RFC 822
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				in case recursive

# make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later
R@$+,$+			@$1:$2				change all "," to ":"

# localize and dispose of domain-based addresses
R@$+:$+			$@$>6<@$1>:$2			handle <route-addr>

# more miscellaneous cleanup
R$+			$:$>8$1				host dependent cleanup
R$+:$*;@$+		$@$1:$2;@$3			list syntax
R$+@$+			$:$1<@$2>			focus on domain
R$+<$+@$+>		$1$2<@$3>			move gaze right
R$+<@$+>		$@$>6$1<@$2>			already canonical

# convert old-style addresses to a domain-based address
R$+^$+			$1!$2				convert ^ to !
R$+!$+			$@$>9$1!$2			uucp name hackery
R$+%$+			$:$>5$1%$2			user%host%host
R$+<@$+>		$@$>6$1<@$2>			canonical

# Given multiple %'s change rightmost % to @.
S5
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				defocus
R$*%$*			$1@$2				First make them all @'s.
R$*@$*@$*		$1%$2@$3			Undo all but the last.
R$*@$*			$@$1<@$2>			Put back the brackets.

###############################################################################
####   Assorted name hackery to make things simple for people              ####
###############################################################################

# here we look for addresses of the form: user%host.domain@gateway
# and strip off the gateway name (for the ones that we know)

S6

# conventional percent format

R$+%$+.MAILNET<@mit-multics.arpa>	$>5$1<%$2.MAILNET>	strip
R$+%$+.MFENET<@nmfecc.arpa>		$>5$1<%$2.MFENET>	strip
R$+%$+.BITNET<@wiscvm.wisc.edu>		$>5$1<%$2.BITNET>	strip
R$+%$+.CSNET<@relay.cs.net>		$>5$1<%$2.CSNET>	strip

# regulation route-addr format

R<@mit-multics.arpa>:$+@$+.MAILNET	$1<@$2.MAILNET>		strip
R<@nmfecc.arpa>:$+@$+.MFENET		$1<@$2.MFENET>		strip
R<@wiscvm.wisc.edu>:$+@$+.BITNET	$1<@$2.BITNET>		strip
R<@relay.cs.net>:$+@$+.CSNET		$1<@$2.CSNET>		strip

# mung up names for the outside world - called from tcp mailer

S7
R$+@$+.MAILNET		$1%$2.MAILNET@mit-multics.arpa	user@host.MAILNET
R$+@$+.MFENET		$1%$2.MFENET@nmfecc.arpa	user@host.MFENET
R$+@$+.BITNET		$1%$2.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu	user@host.BITNET
R$+@$+.CSNET		$1%$2.CSNET@relay.cs.net	user@host.CSNET

###############################################################################
####   UUCP address hackery                                                ####
###############################################################################

S9
R$+!$=w!$+		$3				collapse loops
R$-.$+!$+		$@$>6$3<@$1.$2>			do.main!user
R$-!$+			$@$>6$2<@$1.UUCP>		host!user

################################
#  Sender Field Pre-rewriting  #
################################
S1
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				defocus

###################################
#  Recipient Field Pre-rewriting  #
###################################
S2
R$*<$*>$*		$1$2$3				defocus

###################################
#  Final Output Post-rewriting    #
#  Standard Domain-based version  #
###################################
S4
R@			$n				handle <> error addr

# externalize local domain info
R@$+:$+:$+		$@@$1,$2:$3			<route-addr> canonical

# UUCP must always be presented in old form
R$+@$-.UUCP		$2!$1				u@h.UUCP => h!u

###############################################################################
###   Local, and Program Mailer specifications                              ###
###############################################################################

# Nota Bene: what mailer flags you use depends upon what version of /bin/mail
# you have:
#
# 4th Berkeley Software Distribution (4.1 BSD or later)
#Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=SlsDFMPpmnxr, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u
#
# USG UNIX (System III, System V, Xenix 3.0 or later)
Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=SlsDFMPpmx, S=10, R=20, A=mail $u
#
# Also, if you are using System V, you should get the Berkeley version of
# /bin/mail as soon as you can and junk the one you've got: it doesn't
# believe in sendmail, so the wrong thing will happen when someone types
# mail user@host (i.e. it will attempt local delivery, rather than call
# sendmail)

Mprog, P=/bin/sh, F=lsDFMpxehu, S=10, R=20, A=sh -c $u

S10

S20


###############################################################################
####    IP/TCP/SMTP mailer (going out to internet land)                    ####
###############################################################################

Mtcp,	P=[IPC], F=AmhnDFMpueXLC, S=14, R=14, A=IPC $h, E=\r\n

S14
R$*@[$+]$*		$@$1@[$2]$3		already ok (inet addr spec)
R@$+@$+			$@@$1@$2		already ok (route-addr)
R$+@$=X.UUCP		$2!$1@$X		fix remote UUCP
R$+@$=Y.UUCP		$2!$1@$Y		fix remote UUCP
R$+@$=Z.UUCP		$2!$1@$Z		fix remote UUCP
R$+@$-.UUCP		$2!$1@$j		undo local UUCP hack
R$+@$+			$@$>7$1@$2		fix up names for the internet
R$+			$@$1@$j			add our official host name

###############################################################################
####   UUCP mailer (bangland)                                              ####
###############################################################################

# if none of your UUCP neighbors are 4.1 BSD sites, add an "m" after "F="
# this will cause multiple recipients on the same remote host to be done
# in the same uux command (i.e. one letter sent for "n" recipients)
#
# if you want uucico to be invoked immediately after a letter is queued
# (i.e. initiate the phone call immediately) remove the "-r" flag in the
# uux command line.

Muucp,	P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMxhuU, S=13, R=23, M=100000,
	A=uux - $h!rmail ($u)

S13
R$+@$-.UUCP		$2!$1				u@host.UUCP => host!u
R$=w!$+			$2				zap dups
R@$+@$+			$@$U!@$1@$2			ugh, route-addrs
# unfortunately, I have to resolve route-addrs before this rule, because
# it is so general that it matches them too, with disastrous results. - EEF
R$+@$-.$+		$2.$3!$1			uucpize address
R$+			$:$U!$1				stick on our host name

S23
# nothing here because bangland mailers are supposed to rewrite these headers
# relative to the sender by themselves anyway.

rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) (05/07/91)

In article <4131@anasaz.UUCP> rusty@anasaz.UUCP (Rusty Carruth) writes:
>
>Machine 1: 386 running AT&T Unix System V R.3 (wins).  name - att386
>Machine 2: 386 running Interactive Unix 3.2.2 (I think)name - chad
>Machine 3: 386 running InterActive Unix 3.2            name - clyde
>
>When that sendmail.cf file is run on Machines 1 and 2, (note - only the
>system name is changed from one system to the other(ok, maybe we changed 
>the "who i talk to" as well))... ANyway, when it runs on "att386" or "chad"
>"everythign works fine" (as they say).  However, when I attempt to run
>it on "clyde", local mail gets into a forever loop, with mail calling sendmail
>calling mail calling ......

 Well, if you really want someone to debug your 'sendmail.cf' remotely with
minimal information, good luck!

 In the meantime, take a look at that symptom:

  sendmail calls mail calls sendmail calls mail ...

 This can only mean that you have the wrong local mailer definition.  Namely
mail (presumably /bin/mail) is being called with the wrong arguments.

 The best thing to try is to take the local mailer definition from the
'sendmail.cf' which works for local mail, and use that in the 'sendmail.cf'
which works for everything else.  However in copying the mailer
definition (the line beginning Mlocal), copy only:
 The program name (P=...), the flags (F=...) and the arguments
(A= ... - extending to the end of the mailer def).  Don't copy the
R= or S= strings.

 With some versions of /bin/mail, if you use 'mail user' the message
is delivered to the user.  With other versions, 'sendmail' is called
to forward the mail, and to deliver it you must use other options
such as 'sendmail -d user'.  You are obviously using options which are
inconsistent with the version of /bin/mail.

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bs@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Bernard Steiner) (05/08/91)

In article <4131@anasaz.UUCP>, rusty@anasaz.UUCP (Rusty Carruth) writes:
. However, when I attempt to run
. it on "clyde", local mail gets into a forever loop, with mail calling sendmail
. calling mail calling ......

Rusty, you just answered your own question...

. Mlocal, P=/bin/lmail, F=lsDFMhumS, S=10, R=20, A=lmail -s $u

. And, now, the "looping" sendmail.cf:
. # Nota Bene: what mailer flags you use depends upon what version of /bin/mail
. # you have:

Very important, that...

. # USG UNIX (System III, System V, Xenix 3.0 or later)
. Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=SlsDFMPpmx, S=10, R=20, A=mail $u

Note this definition is quite different from the one above...

. # Also, if you are using System V, you should get the Berkeley version of
. # /bin/mail as soon as you can and junk the one you've got: it doesn't
. # believe in sendmail, so the wrong thing will happen when someone types
. # mail user@host (i.e. it will attempt local delivery, rather than call
. # sendmail)

Hear, hear !

Anyway, what I was going to say - try the version with "lmail".
If you haven't got /bin/lmail, use /bin/mail instead and A=lmail ...

If that doesn't work, go figure out how to use a mail program that *doesn*t
connect to sendmail, and if all else fails, RTFM or indeed "get the Berkeley
version of /bin/mail"

Cheers, and goog luck

-Bernard

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rusty@anasaz.UUCP (Rusty Carruth) (05/09/91)

In article <4754@unido.informatik.uni-dortmund.de> bs@Germany.EU.net writes:
>In article <4131@anasaz.UUCP>, rusty@anasaz.UUCP (Rusty Carruth) writes:
>. However, when I attempt to run
>. it on "clyde", local mail gets into a forever loop, with mail calling sendmail
>. calling mail calling ......
>
>Rusty, you just answered your own question...
>
Er, oops!  Well, you got that right!  Thanks to both you and the other
gentleman who posted, I got it working.

I did have one other little interesting thing happen - if you do not
have the aliases database initialized (sendmail -bi), it can take
a VERY long time to get sendmail started (like, 5 1/2 minutes!).

That made the confusion factor even better :-)   Oh, well, its working
now, thanks very much to the net!

Rusty

ccx009@cch.cov.ac.uk (Adam Bentley) (06/24/91)

Hi.
I'm hoping someone can help me sort out a couple of problems I'm having 
installing UK Sendmail 2.1 on Sequent Symmetry.

We have a single Janet link onto a single machine so all mail has to go
through this machine. We also have a number of local ethernet hosts some
NRS registered, some not.

Obviously the janet linked machine must act as a gateway for the other
NRS registered ether hosts but although I have added these NRS registered
ether hosts to the ether.chn file the configuration still insists on sending
the mail to by niftp.
eg.
	person@uk.ac.cov.nrs_reg_on_ether

	becomes

	person%uk.ac.cov.nrs_reg_on_ether@uk.ac.cov delivered by niftp

when it should be delivered over the ether....


I am probably missing something major here. Forgive the naivety on my
part but I've never done anything like this before.

If someone can help, then drop me a line and I can provide more detail.

thanks,
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