richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (05/10/88)
In article <347@mergvax.UUCP> ellis@mergvax.UUCP (Craig Ellis) writes: > > I have read a 'pre-review' of the new 1.3 WB that is to be release > in a user group new letter. In an article, it said that Adobe fonts > could be used for the screen. Is this true, CA? Dale, 1 month ago, said it was true. He seemed pretty coherant, so I'd say it's probably true. More to the point, WHICH ONES are going to be released ??? -- noalias went. it really wasn't negotiable richard@gryphon.CTS.COM rutgers!marque!gryphon!richard
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (05/10/88)
In article <3934@gryphon.CTS.COM| richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: |In article <347@mergvax.UUCP| ellis@mergvax.UUCP (Craig Ellis) writes: || || I have read a 'pre-review' of the new 1.3 WB that is to be release || in a user group new letter. In an article, it said that Adobe fonts || could be used for the screen. Is this true, CA? | |Dale, 1 month ago, said it was true. | |He seemed pretty coherant, so I'd say it's probably true. The 1.3 "Extras" disk distributed at DevCon included 3 Adobe fonts: Courier, Helvetica and Times in a number of pointsizes (like 4 to 6 for each font). The small point fonts don't look much better than the Amiga fonts, though all are proportional, so they can be used with Desktop publishing programs. -- Marco -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
spencer@eris (Randal m. Spencer [RmS]) (05/11/88)
Recently on *comp.fonts* richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) wrote: ... ...More to the point, WHICH ONES are going to be released ??? ... ...richard@gryphon.CTS.COM rutgers!marque!gryphon!richard I have got the disks from the Developers conference and the fonts here are just Times Helvetica and Courier. Good start, but how about postscript support built into the system... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Randy Spencer P.O. Box 4542 Berkeley CA 94704 (415)222-7595 spencer@mica.berkeley.edu I N F I N I T Y BBS: (415)222-9416 ..ucbvax!mica!spencer s o f t w a r e AAA-WH1M -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP (Carolyn Scheppner CATS) (05/11/88)
In article <9006@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: >In article <3934@gryphon.CTS.COM| richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: >|In article <347@mergvax.UUCP| ellis@mergvax.UUCP (Craig Ellis) writes: >|| >|| I have read a 'pre-review' of the new 1.3 WB that is to be release >|| in a user group new letter. In an article, it said that Adobe fonts >|| could be used for the screen. Is this true, CA? >| >|Dale, 1 month ago, said it was true. >| >|He seemed pretty coherant, so I'd say it's probably true. > >The 1.3 "Extras" disk distributed at DevCon included 3 Adobe fonts: Courier, >Helvetica and Times in a number of pointsizes (like 4 to 6 for each font). >The small point fonts don't look much better than the Amiga fonts, though >all are proportional, so they can be used with Desktop publishing programs. Two points - 1. The 1.3 Workbench and Extras distributed at the devcon were version Gamma 7, not a release version. It is for Gamma testing by registered developers. 2. When Workbench 1.3 is released, distribution will require a new 1.3 Workbench license, which will include a separate Adobe license. No one can legally distribute the Adobe fonts without an Adobe font license. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Carolyn Scheppner -- CATS >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< UUCP ...{allegra,ihnp4,rutgers}!cbmvax!carolyn PHONE 215-431-9180 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (05/12/88)
Marco Papa Doc writes: > >Sorry, but I just checked with the font editor, and ALL the Adobe fonts from >the Extras disk, including Courier, are proportional width. Is the font flagged as proportiional or are the characters all of different widths ? If they are, wouldn't this like, be wrong ? Courier is monospaced. Thats the only reason we put up with the ugly mother :-) If it's not monospaced is this the way it normally comes from Adobe ? This seems a little odd. -- noalias went. it really wasn't negotiable richard@gryphon.CTS.COM rutgers!marque!gryphon!richard
doug-merritt@cup.portal.com (05/12/88)
I assume that Commodore hasn't set the price on the 1.3 Adobe font
license yet. But we can guess based on: does anyone know how much
Adobe charges for a font license? Are there different charges for
different applications (e.g. laser printer versus display etc)?
Doug
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or ucbvax!unisoft!certes!dougpapa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (05/12/88)
In article <3964@gryphon.CTS.COM| richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) writes: |Marco Papa Doc writes: || ||Sorry, but I just checked with the font editor, and ALL the Adobe fonts from ||the Extras disk, including Courier, are proportional width. |Is the font flagged as proportiional or are the characters all of |different widths ? |If they are, wouldn't this like, be wrong ? Courier is monospaced. |Thats the only reason we put up with the ugly mother :-) |If it's not monospaced is this the way it normally comes from Adobe ? |This seems a little odd. The Font Editor shows the characters in a box of different size for each character and the "width" gadget at the bottom shows different width values. I don't have the sources for FED, so I don't know whether it is because of the bit Kodiak was talking about, but it sure looks strange. I don't have SetFont so if anybody wants to try that and see what happens, we'd appreciate to find out. -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP (Carolyn Scheppner CATS) (05/17/88)
In article <5362@cup.portal.com> doug-merritt@cup.portal.com writes: >I assume that Commodore hasn't set the price on the 1.3 Adobe font >license yet... I believe we will be able to keep the cost of a one year Workbench & Adobe license the same as the current cost for a Workbench license alone - i.e. $100/year. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Carolyn Scheppner -- CATS >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< UUCP ...{allegra,ihnp4,rutgers}!cbmvax!carolyn PHONE 215-431-9180 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) (05/18/88)
In article <3785@cbmvax.UUCP>, carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP writes: > I believe we will be able to keep the cost of a one year Workbench & Adobe > license the same as the current cost for a Workbench license alone - i.e. > $100/year. Gee... I paid less than $20 for my copy of 1.2 (A5210 Amiga Enhancer Software). Does this mean 1.3 is going to be pricey? Just what does this mean? -- -- Peter da Silva `-_-' ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter -- "Have you hugged your U wolf today?" ...!bellcore!tness1!sugar!peter -- Disclaimer: These may be the official opinions of Hackercorp.
schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) (05/19/88)
In article <2018@sugar.UUCP> peter@sugar.UUCP (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <3785@cbmvax.UUCP>, carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP writes: >> I believe we will be able to keep the cost of a one year Workbench & Adobe >> license the same as the current cost for a Workbench license alone - i.e. >> $100/year. > >Gee... I paid less than $20 for my copy of 1.2 (A5210 Amiga Enhancer Software). > >Does this mean 1.3 is going to be pricey? > >Just what does this mean? Peter, Peter, Peter..... Carolyn was saying that a "Workbench License" should be $100 - you paid $20 for a V1.2 Enhancer Kit not a license :-) The license allows a the holder of said license to legaly sell there product on a Workbench (installed) disk. If someone is selling (or even giving) disks away that are bootable and they do not have a valid Workbench License, then there in the wrong :-) Im sure the new V1.3 Enhancer Kit will be much less than $100. Maybe even as low as @#*&#@&^% (Darn line noise :-) >-- >-- Peter da Silva `-_-' ...!hoptoad!academ!uhnix1!sugar!peter -- Dan "Sneakers" Schein uucp: {ihnp4|allegra|burdvax|rutgers}!cbmvax!sneakers Commodore AMIGA ARPANET: cbmvax!sneakers@uunet.uu.net 1200 Wilson Drive Bix: dschein Plink: Dan*CATS West Chester PA 19380 phone: (215) 431-9100 ext. 9542 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Call BERKS AMIGA BBS - 24 Hrs - 3/12/2400 Baud - 40Meg - 215/678-7691 +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Quote: Those who worked the hardest Gary Ward - Oklahoma State are the last to surrender baseball coach
hrlaser@pnet02.UUCP (05/20/88)
schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) writes: > Im sure the new V1.3 Enhancer Kit will be much less than $100. Maybe even as > low as @#*&#@&^% (Darn line noise :-) Well let's see here.... 1.0 cost me $1295. Had to buy an A1000 at full retail price (no one was discounting them in October 1985) to get it. 1.1 cost me $0.00. Was handed out to Amiga owners for free by dealers. (remember the brown corrugated cardboard box?) 1.2 cost me $10.00. Retail was $15.00. I bought it through a mail-order software discount house. 1.3 will cost me "as low as @#*&#@&^%." Hey, that sounds fairly reasonable! Just so long as it doesn't cost me as much as 1.0 did!! ;-) Harv Laser, Sysop, The People/Link AmigaZone. Plink: CBM*HARV UUCP: {ihnp4!scgvaxd!cadovax, rutgers!marque}!gryphon!pnet02!hrlaser INET: hrlaser@pnet02.cts.com
carolyn@cbmvax.UUCP (Carolyn Scheppner CATS) (05/24/88)
In article <3821@cbmvax.UUCP> schein@cbmvax.UUCP (Dan Schein CATS) writes: > > ...If someone is selling (or even giving) disks > away that are bootable and they do not have a valid Workbench License, then > there in the wrong :-) Just a quick clarification. Distributing bootable disks is OK without a Workbench license. The following items may be distributed on a disk without requiring a Workbench license: s/startup-sequence \ devs/mountlist > All are program-created devs/system-configuration / CBM boot block code (as installed by the Install command) Distribution of anything else on Workbench requires a Workbench license. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Carolyn Scheppner -- CATS >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< UUCP ...{allegra,ihnp4,rutgers}!cbmvax!carolyn PHONE 215-431-9180 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=