[comp.fonts] X fonts or Screen fonts wanted.

kg@elan.elan.com (Ken Greer) (02/26/90)

Our company distributes a product under X/11 called Elan/Express which
includes a set of fonts.  We are looking to enlarge it's fonts set
and/or replace them with better quality screen fonts. We especially
need them at small point sizes.  We are fully aware of the MIT X11 font
set, and are aware of the Adobe offering.  Both have too few point sizes.
Any suggestions?

Ken Greer  Elan Computer Group, Inc. 888 Villa St. 3rd Floor Mt View CA 94041
Phone:     415-964-2200
Internet:  kg@elan.com
UUCP:      {ames,hplabs,uunet}!elan!kg

rubin@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (michael.rubin) (02/28/90)

Are there ANY fixed-width fonts that are more readable than Courier?
(Both bitmap and Postscript families would be appreciated.)
The other stroke fonts like Letter Gothic are pretty hard on the eyes too.
The only truly decent fixed-width font I've seen outside of old typewriters
is Sun's default screen font "Gallant", which only exists at 19 point(!)
as a bitmap....

--Mike Rubin <mike@attunix.att.com>

roy@phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) (03/01/90)

In article <4354@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> rubin@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Mike Rubin) writes:
> Are there ANY fixed-width fonts that are more readable than Courier?

	We have both Letter Gothic and Orator from Adobe on our Macintoshes
for use with PostScript printers.  The latter is Caps/SmallCaps only.  The
Adobe Font & Function catalog also lists Prestige Elite.  All three should
be familiar to anybody who ever owned a Selectric.  If you want to get
silly, you might also try OCR-A, OCR-B, and MICR, all of which I think are
monospaced, but probably not very good for program listings, which is what
most people seem to want.

	From the looks of the type sample in F&F, I think Ponderosa might
be mono too.  Try doing program listings in that!
--
Roy Smith, Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
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truett@cup.portal.com (Truett Lee Smith) (03/02/90)

Another possibility for a readable monospaced font is the Lucida font which
is used by the ilist program that Imagen sells with their printers to run on
the Suns.  Specifically, they use the Lucida sans font and it is sufficiently
readable to make a good listing that is 132 characters wide by 120 lines high
on an 8.5" x 11" sheet.

Truett Smith
NEC America, San Jose, California

e-mail: truett@cup.portal.com

oj@apollo.HP.COM (Ellis Oliver Jones) (03/02/90)

In article <4354@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> rubin@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Mike Rubin) writes:
> Are there ANY fixed-width fonts that are more readable than Courier?

I just saw a poster of type samples from Bitstream.  On it was listed
a face called, I think, "Monospaced Century Schoolbook."  This face might
be worth a try;  I've spent an inordinate amount of time staring at ordinary
Adobe New Century Schoolbook screen fonts and I found them to be quite
readable at low rez. 

I've never used this monospaced variant, although I'd like to try it.  
Bitstream people, how about donating these bitmaps to the X Window System 
consortium?  Strike a blow against bitmap blindness everywhere!  :-) 
/Ollie Jones

trb@haddock.ima.isc.com (Andrew Tannenbaum) (03/03/90)

In article <4354@cbnewsl.ATT.COM> rubin@cbnewsl.ATT.COM (Mike Rubin) writes:
> Are there ANY fixed-width fonts that are more readable than Courier?

(It depends...)

The X4 tape comes with a bunch of b&h lucidatypewriter bold fonts,
between 11 and 34 point (for 100 dpi).  I typically use courier bold
normal 14 point on my ~100 dpi 1660 dot wide screen, which allows two
80 column windows side by side that don't overlap.  The 14 point
lucidatypewriter bold 14 xterm is about 5.5 inches wide, whereas the
courier bold 14 is a touch over 6 (same height).  I regret that I find
this 14 point courier bold quite easier to read than this 14 point
lucidatypewriter bold.  (That doesn't mean that I'd prefer courier to
lucidatypewriter in a different size).

I can just about fit 160 columns of lucidatypewriter bold 17 pt on my
screen with room for one scroll bar on the side.

I find the the non-bold fonts on the X tapes too light for xterm use.
(This is screen and user dependent, like everything else I'm saying).

Btw, you can use the r4 fonts under r3.

	Andrew Tannenbaum   Interactive   Cambridge, MA   +1 617 661 7474