[comp.fonts] Looking for fonts...

sys111@ztivax.UUCP (Evelyn Pfeuffer) (06/20/89)

I am looking for special fonts. Is there anybody, who could give me a hint 
how I could get software for hieroglyphics, cuneiform or japanese writing fonts?
These fonts should be for a msdos computer.

Thanks in advance 

Evelyn Pfeuffer

e-mail address: uucp: unido!ztivax!sys111

freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) (10/26/90)

I'm looking for the following typefaces in (preferably hinted) Postscript form.

	Times
	Garamond
	Baskerville
	Bembo
	Bodoni
	Univers
	Gill Sans

I have _no_ idea what are the names of the big type foundries in this context.
I _do_ know that some of these typefaces have multiple "implementations", e.g.
even Adobe sells a number of "Garamonds".  So, how do I find out what the best
variant of each of these fonts is?

Freek "the Pistol Major" Wiedijk                      E-mail: freek@fwi.uva.nl
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henry@angel.Eng.Sun.COM (Henry McGilton) (10/26/90)

In article <1395@carol.fwi.uva.nl>, freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
    *  I'm looking for the following typefaces in
    *  (preferably hinted) Postscript form.
	*  Times		Garamond 	  Baskerville		Bembo
	*  Bodoni		Univers 	  Gill Sans
    *  I have _no_ idea what are the names of the big type
    *  foundries in this context.
I don't have my Adobe Font and Function catalog in front of me right
at this moment, but, I am fairly sure that Adobe have all of these
fonts, in at least one rendition each.  As for their derivations:

    Times -- Both Linotype and Monotype have a rendition of
	    Times.  I don't know which of them Adobe sell.
	    Why anyone would want times is a mystery to me anyway.
    Garamond -- Adobe sell ITC (Stempel?) Garamond, Garamond-3, and
		Adobe Garamond.  Personally I think that Adobe
		Garamond is the best.  I think that the Stempel
		Garamond is too heavy.  But that's solipsism.
    Bembo -- from Monotype.
    Gill Sans -- from Monotype.
    Can't remember the others.

    *  I _do_ know that some of these typefaces have multiple
    *  "implementations", e.g.  even Adobe sells a number of
    *  "Garamonds".  So, how do I find out what the best
    *  variant of each of these fonts is?
The `best' variation of a font is what you like, or what your
designer likes.  It's very subjective.  Get Adobe's Font and
Function catalog.  Plus find type catalogs from your bookstore.

	........  Henry

freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) (10/26/90)

henry@angel.Eng.Sun.COM (Henry McGilton) writes:

>In article <1395@carol.fwi.uva.nl>, I wrote:
>
>    *  I _do_ know that some of these typefaces have multiple
>    *  "implementations", e.g.  even Adobe sells a number of
>    *  "Garamonds".  So, how do I find out what the best
>    *  variant of each of these fonts is?
>
>The `best' variation of a font is what you like, or what your
>designer likes.  It's very subjective.  Get Adobe's Font and
>Function catalog.  Plus find type catalogs from your bookstore.

What I meant by `best' was `closest to the (original) lead type'.
So, for example, I wanted to know which Postscript Garamond resembles
the original Monotype Garamond (of which the history is described in
`a Tally of Types' by Stanley Morison) most.

Freek "the Pistol Major" Wiedijk                      E-mail: freek@fwi.uva.nl
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dhoyt@vx.acs.umn.edu (10/26/90)

In article <1397@carol.fwi.uva.nl>, freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes...
>What I meant by `best' was `closest to the (original) lead type'.
>So, for example, I wanted to know which Postscript Garamond resembles
>the original Monotype Garamond (of which the history is described in
>`a Tally of Types' by Stanley Morison) most.

  People have been making copies of Garamonds work for a long time.  I believe
that his widow's second husband even produced a copy of his own.  The
'original' Monotype was not particularly original, nor a revial of Garamond's
work.  I believe that the sample that was used as a basis was actually
another's interpretation of an original Garamond type.

  Garamond produced more than one type, also.  What is considered a 'Garamond'
face today was Garamond's interpretation of Nicholus Jensen's roman, one of
the first, and still considered one of the best designed, roman face.  The end
of this all is that there is no 'true' Garamond face that is still in
existance, at least any than are known.  All the commercial fonts are
interpretations; with their strengths and weakness. Indeed, Garamond's originals
had their strengths and weaknesses too.

  There are many fine old style faces on the market today.  For digital type, 
I am fond of Stemple Garamond and Adobe Garamond from Adobe.  I am also very
fond of Bruce Roger's Centar, although I am not sure if there is a good digital
rendering of this font.  Digital type is not quite up to the standard of cold
type or lead but it is getting closer.  Look around, smell the ink, have fun.

david

grahams@milton.u.washington.edu (Stephen Graham) (10/26/90)

In article <1397@carol.fwi.uva.nl> freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
>
>What I meant by `best' was `closest to the (original) lead type'.
>So, for example, I wanted to know which Postscript Garamond resembles
>the original Monotype Garamond (of which the history is described in
>`a Tally of Types' by Stanley Morison) most.
>
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to look at which typeface most
closely resembles the original cutting by the original designer
of the type? Monotype's versions are not guaranteed to be absolutely
faithful to that original cutting. They are, after all, someone's
interpretation of the designer's work. I also prefer Adobe Garamond
as the best PostScript implementation of Garamond. 

Steve Graham
graham@isis.ee.washington.edu

ath@prosys.se (Anders Thulin) (10/28/90)

In article <1397@carol.fwi.uva.nl> freek@fwi.uva.nl (Freek Wiedijk) writes:
>
>What I meant by `best' was `closest to the (original) lead type'.
>So, for example, I wanted to know which Postscript Garamond resembles
>the original Monotype Garamond (of which the history is described in
>`a Tally of Types' by Stanley Morison) most.

The Monotype version wasn't the original. The 'original' was probably
cut by Garamond some time back in the 1500s (?).

The Adobe Garamond seems to capture the original typeface best. 



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