[comp.fonts] Mathematical Pi or Lucida Math as replacement for Symbol?

nvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Charles C. Allen) (11/17/90)

I'd like advice on how some Adobe fonts interface with some software
on the Mac.  The Symbol font has some shortcomings when used for
equations.  The Fall 1990 Font & Function mentions two fonts that
could possibly used in place of Symbol: Mathematical Pi and Lucida
Math.  Mathematical Pi looks much more "complete", but Lucida Math has
relatives in Lucida and Lucida Sans which make it attractive in some
ways.

Do either of these fonts function as a "replacement" for Symbol?  In
particular, will applications like Expressionist, MathType, and
FrameMaker be able to use them?  What about TeXtures and Oztex?

In general, is there any sort of standard about placement of symbols
for "math" fonts?

Charles Allen			Internet: cca@physics.purdue.edu
Department of Physics			  nvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu
Purdue University		HEPnet:   purdnu::allen, fnal::cca
West Lafayette, IN  47907	talknet:  317/494-9776

guelzow@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Andreas J. Guelzow) (11/22/90)

In article <6101@mace.cc.purdue.edu> nvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu 
(Charles C. Allen) writes:
>....... The Fall 1990 Font & Function mentions two fonts that
>could possibly used in place of Symbol: Mathematical Pi and Lucida
>Math.  Mathematical Pi looks much more "complete", but Lucida Math has
>relatives in Lucida and Lucida Sans which make it attractive in some
>ways.

Mathematical Pi consists really of six 'fonts' each providing a unique
set of mathematical symbols. These 6 fonts together provide a large
number of symbols not contained in Symbol and many that are.
Nevertheless, I don't think they can replace Symbol since many of the
standard characters are missing (e.g. the implication arrows). 

>Do either of these fonts function as a "replacement" for Symbol?  In
>particular, will applications like Expressionist, MathType, and
>FrameMaker be able to use them?  What about TeXtures and Oztex?

While Expressionist and Mathtype can surely use this font (since they
can use any Mac font) it would require an additional effort by the
user, e.g. Mathematical Pi 3 contains several integral symbols of
different weight to be used for integrals of different height.

I have obtained Mathematical Pi under the ATM upgrade deal and am very
pleased with it, although it still doesn't include several symbols I
would love to have as an outline font, e.g. different arrows for
injective, surjective, bijective mappings, etc.

>Charles Allen			Internet: cca@physics.purdue.edu
>Department of Physics			  nvi@mace.cc.purdue.edu
>Purdue University		HEPnet:   purdnu::allen, fnal::cca
>West Lafayette, IN  47907	talknet:  317/494-9776

Andreas Guelzow <guelzow@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Dept. of Mathematics, University of Manitoba

P.S. My only relationship with Adobe is as a satisfied customer (who
would even be more satisfied were some other font families also priced
within my reach).