js@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jay Sekora) (11/20/90)
A visiting scholar here has a grant to figure out how to do Mongolian on the Mac. He's been implementing this on a Mac SE running Arabic System 6.0.3 (or, I think, a composite of the Arabic and U.S. systems---it's bilingual). This system has Script Manager installed, and he is able to use Script Manager with his Mongolian fonts. Now he wants to port the system to a Mac IIsi, which requires System 6.0.7. How can he install the Script Manager in 6.0.7 (or can he)? We tried copying obvious-seeming resources and system files from the 6.0.3 system to 6.0.7, and it didn't work---we didn't get the little Script Manager icons at the right-hand side of the menu bar. So, the question is, what does one have to do to install the Script Manager in a System? Is there an Installer Script for it floating around, or is it a matter of knowing what resources to copy? Any help will be appreciated. This is your chance to help bring the joys of WYSIWIG computing to Mongolia. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jay Sekora | internet: js@princeton.edu Information Centers Consultant | bitnet: js@pucc.bitnet Princeton University | phone 609/258-6007
iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ivan Derzhanski) (11/26/90)
In article <4161@idunno.Princeton.EDU> js@Princeton.EDU writes: >A visiting scholar here has a grant to figure out how to do Mongolian >on the Mac. He's been implementing this on a Mac SE running Arabic >System 6.0.3 (or, I think, a composite of the Arabic and U.S. >systems---it's bilingual). This system has Script Manager installed, >and he is able to use Script Manager with his Mongolian fonts. > [...] > >Any help will be appreciated. This is your chance to help bring the >joys of WYSIWIG computing to Mongolia. Excuse me, but what kind of Mongolian fonts is the whole matter about? Mongolian (i.e. the language spoken and written in Mongolia) uses the Cyrillic alphabet, more precisely, Russian with two extra letters. There are many Russian fonts for the MacIntosh, and adding those two letters couldn't be called a problem. Or maybe you mean the medieval Mongolian writing system that used to be used for the Buddhist scripture? That would be more challenging, although I wonder how many people in Mongolia know it nowadays... anyway, it has nothing to do with the joys of WYSIWYG computing. -- Ivan A. Derzhanski iad@chaos.brandeis.edu Any clod can have the facts, MB 1766 / Brandeis University but having an opinion is an art. P.O.Box 9110 / Waltham, MA 02254-9110 / USA Charles McCabe
js@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jay Sekora) (11/27/90)
A couple people wrote to straighten out my confusion about what exactly I was looking for. The Script Manager is built into current versions of Mac System Software. What my colleague wanted to do was install a particular "Script Interface System", which is a separate thing. He wanted the Arabic Script Interface System because Mongolian (as he wants to write it) is (evidently) similar to Arabic in (1) being written right-to-left (it's traditionally written vertically) and (2) involving an extensive system of ligatures. Jim Walker <76367.2271@compuserve.com> provided the missing piece I needed; there is a flag somewhere in the 'itlc' resource which tells the system which interfaces are installed. Copying the 'itlc' resource did the trick. In article <1990Nov25.220215.10132@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ivan Derzhanski) writes: >In article <4161@idunno.Princeton.EDU> js@Princeton.EDU writes: >>A visiting scholar here has a grant to figure out how to do Mongolian >>on the Mac. He's been implementing this on a Mac SE running Arabic >>System 6.0.3 (or, I think, a composite of the Arabic and U.S. >>systems---it's bilingual). This system has Script Manager installed, >>and he is able to use Script Manager with his Mongolian fonts. >> >[...] >> >>Any help will be appreciated. This is your chance to help bring the >>joys of WYSIWIG computing to Mongolia. > >Excuse me, but what kind of Mongolian fonts is the whole matter about? >Mongolian (i.e. the language spoken and written in Mongolia) uses the >Cyrillic alphabet, more precisely, Russian with two extra letters. There >are many Russian fonts for the MacIntosh, and adding those two letters >couldn't be called a problem. The Cyrillic alphabet was officially adopted in Mongolia some time after Mongolia became Communist. It never entirely supplanted the native(*) Mongolian script in popular usage. With the liberalization of the past few years, the native script experienced a resurgence. It recently (within the past year or so) became the official script again. (*) I'm using ``native'' in a loose sense here. >Or maybe you mean the medieval Mongolian writing system that used to be >used for the Buddhist scripture? That would be more challenging, although >I wonder how many people in Mongolia know it nowadays... anyway, it has >nothing to do with the joys of WYSIWYG computing. My understanding is that everyone in Mongolia who is literate in Mongolian knows it nowadays. That's what current street signs and public documents are in, and has always been what most private correspondence was in. They also know the Cyrillic system, which was official until recently. (Incidentally, my colleague's system, at least the last time I checked, includes the Cyrillic system in the Mongolian version of the Chicago font, so that files and folders can have English (ASCII) names or Cyrillic-Mongolian names. Presumably the real Mongolian alphabet would be used for word processing and such production purposes. >-- >Ivan A. Derzhanski iad@chaos.brandeis.edu Any clod can have the facts, >MB 1766 / Brandeis University but having an opinion is an art. >P.O.Box 9110 / Waltham, MA 02254-9110 / USA Charles McCabe -- _____________________________________________________________________ Jay Sekora | internet: js@princeton.edu Information Centers Consultant | bitnet: js@pucc.bitnet Princeton University | phone 609/258-6007