[net.micro] Stevens Tech micro requirement

LSR@Mit-Xx@sri-unix (08/18/82)

From: Larry S Rosenstein <LSR@Mit-Xx>
I think that part of the reason behind the Stevens Tech computer
requirement is that personal computers are the "in" thing today (along
with video games).  (I know nothing about the school, so this and what
follows is pure speculation.)  Consider the number of computer camps
and the stories about them that have appeared recently.  Since
personal computers are becoming so popular with high school students,
it is a big win for Stevens to say that they are the only school that
completely integrates computers into their curriculum.

Compare this with the MIT undergrad computer science program.  During
my undergrad years, I had only 4 classes that provided computer access
(2 of these were my senior year, when the department began a new
microcomputer lab).  For example, the undergrad (and graduate for that
matter) class on compilers did not have ANY lab component.  The
situation is better now that the department has its own Twenex system
(and the undergrad compiler class WILL have a lab component in the
coming year).

A student's main interaction with computers is through one of the many
research groups on campus.  This is where MIT (I assume) beats Stevens
Tech hands down--there are many opportunities for getting involved in
all kinds of projects.  This is really the only way to work on
meaningful projects (problems given in classes have to be limited in
scope).

When I was on the MIT EE&CS Undergrad Student-Faculty committee, there
as in fact a proposal mentioned to require all the Computer Science
(and maybe EE's as well) to buy a personal computer.  (There was
discussion about the costs involved to the students; one idea was
for the department to buy back computers when students graduate or to
have a number of machines that students could borrow.)  The idea was
that with this approach, almost every EE&CS class could use the
machine as a test bench, both in hardware and software.  Considering
that the trend in research and industry is towards personal machines,
this is not a bad idea (although Atari 800's can hardly be mistaken
for Lisp Machines).

If I was in high school and had only the "glossy brochures" to go on,
I might choose Stevens Tech over MIT (especially if I was "raised" on
Ataris), simply because the former would emphasize its use of
computers in the entire curriculum.  

	Larry
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