[comp.fonts] Is Helios in the Public Domain?

George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (George Bray) (06/19/91)

I'm working on a project that represents papers on-screen and require
clear display fonts for the Macintosh.

Helios seems to be a 'standard' but I'm not sure if I have to license it.

Are there any other good 'screen' fonts?

Sorry of this has come up before, this is my first time here.

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kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry) (06/19/91)

In article <1991Jun19.010626.14727@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (George Bray) writes:
>I'm working on a project that represents papers on-screen and require
>clear display fonts for the Macintosh.
>
>Helios seems to be a 'standard' but I'm not sure if I have to license it.

Helios [if you mean the one I think you mean] is Compugraphic's version
of Helvetica.  Both Helios and Helvetica are trademarked names and are
sold as commercial fonts.

However, for the Mac bitmap fonts, sometimes you're allowed to
distribute the bitmaps (but not the printer font file, which contains
the outlines of the characters.)  Adobe lets people get their Mac screen
fonts for free [although I believe you have to let them know if you want
to distribute their screen fonts with your application--I'm sure someone
from adobe.com will fill us in]; I don't know about Compugraphic.

>Are there any other good 'screen' fonts?

What's wrong with Geneva, Courier, Monaco, Chicago, New York, etc.?  (I
assume they come with Australian Macs like they do with most others.)
Geneva is a good on-screen substitute for Helvetica/Helios/Univers/etc.
fonts at up to 24pt, and you can be sure it's installed on any Macintosh
[unless your System is very different from the U.S. one, which won't let
users remove 9pt and 12pt Geneva.  Similarly, New York [which is modeled
on ITC Garamond Light Condensed] makes a good on-screen substitute for
most serif fonts, particularly narrow ones like Times-Roman.

I think the fonts people are most likely to have, other than the ones
that come with the computer, are the Adobe screen fonts for the basic
LaserWriter Plus set (Palatino, New Century Schoolbook, ITC Avant Garde
Gothic, ITC Zapf Chancery, ITC Zapf Dingbats, etc.)

You can get Adobe screen bitmap packages from Adobe's file server; send
a message with the text "help" to ps-file-server@adobe.com for basic
instructions.
						-- James Parry


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George.Bray@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (George Bray) (06/26/91)

Thanks for the CompuGraphic tip James.

As far as fonts are concerned, Australian Systems are the same as US ones.
All the letters are upside-down though, which makes it quite difficult :-)

The fonts that ship with the Mac are great.  I haven't seen helios on screen
so maybe I'll have to stick with the usual ones.

George Bray