[comp.unix.aux] Questions about AU/X

donn@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Donn Fishbein) (08/06/88)

I am looking seriously at the AU/X upgrade for my Mac II and would
appreciate some information from current users:

1) Does anyone know what Apple's policy on upgrading from 1.0 to 1.1
   is or will be?  Or would it be wiser to wait for 1.1 to be released?
   (I can buy the upgrade from stock without waiting.)

2) What is contained within the 6000 page $600 manuals that is not on-line?
   Could an experienced UNIX person get by without them?

3) Are there any problems running Usenet under AU/X? What do you do about
   serial ports beyond 2?

4) Do any tape backup units other than Apple's work with AU/X?  Can you back
   up the AU/X partition under MacOS?

Many thanks..Please mail or post replies as you see fit.

dwb@Apple.COM (David W. Berry) (08/16/88)

In article <5093@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> donn@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Donn Fishbein) writes:
>I am looking seriously at the AU/X upgrade for my Mac II and would
>appreciate some information from current users:
>
>
>2) What is contained within the 6000 page $600 manuals that is not on-line?
>   Could an experienced UNIX person get by without them?
	It's the man pages that are on-line plus the equivalent of all
the extra Berkeley Manuals, plus the equivalent of all the extra System
V manuals, plus some A/UX stuff.  Makes a rather neat display on your
bookshelf and frequently even comes in handy.
>
>3) Are there any problems running Usenet under AU/X? What do you do about
>   serial ports beyond 2?
	I don't know of anybody that's tried to port news to A/UX.  I
also don't know of any reason it should be difficult.  News is already
known to work on SVR2 and that's what A/UX is.  If you are simply
referring to uucp, that set of stuff is all there already.
	Additional serial ports can be added with 4 port serial cards
from AST and SuperMac.
>
>4) Do any tape backup units other than Apple's work with AU/X?  Can you back
>   up the AU/X partition under MacOS?
	Currently, A/UX does not support any tape drives.  It's reasonable
to expect that that will change soon.  Tape drive support will probably
not extend to apple tape drives due to the wide variation in functionality
of SCSI tape drives.  The A/UX partitions can be backed up (image only,
not files) under MacOS by the software shipped with the tape drive.
>
>Many thanks..Please mail or post replies as you see fit.




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David W. Berry
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dwb@Apple.COM (David W. Berry) (08/17/88)

In article <15607@apple.Apple.COM> dwb@apple.com.UUCP (David W. Berry) writes:
>In article <5093@killer.DALLAS.TX.US> donn@killer.DALLAS.TX.US (Donn Fishbein) writes:
>>4) Do any tape backup units other than Apple's work with AU/X?  Can you back
>>   up the AU/X partition under MacOS?
>	Currently, A/UX does not support any tape drives.  It's reasonable
>to expect that that will change soon.  Tape drive support will probably
>not extend to apple tape drives due to the wide variation in functionality
>of SCSI tape drives.  The A/UX partitions can be backed up (image only,
>not files) under MacOS by the software shipped with the tape drive.
	Oops, more or less obviously I meant to say that:
	"Tape drive support will probably not extend >beyond< apple
tape drives due to the wide variation in functionality of SCSI tape
drives"

	Sorry for the confusion.




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David W. Berry
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dave@onfcanim.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (09/09/88)

In article <15655@apple.Apple.COM> dwb@apple.com.UUCP (David W. Berry) writes:
>The A/UX partitions can be backed up (image only,
>not files) under MacOS by the software shipped with the tape drive.

Not quite true.  We received a new Apple tape drive a week ago, and it
arrived with version 1.1 of the tape backup utility.  We also have an
older tape drive, and have not received an update of the version 1.1
software received with it.

The utilities manual for system 6 says that it requires version 2 of the
tape backup utility to deal with partitions, but Apple Canada says that
version 2 has not been released yet, regardless of what the documentation
says.

Apple Canada did give us a beta-test version that works, solving the
problem for now.

Is Apple Canada behind Apple U.S. in releasing this, or is it just not
publically available yet?

	Dave Martindale

falken@caen.engin.umich.edu (David R Falkenburg) (09/11/88)

In article <16098@onfcanim.UUCP>, dave@onfcanim.UUCP (Dave Martindale) writes:
> In article <15655@apple.Apple.COM> dwb@apple.com.UUCP (David W. Berry) writes:
> >The A/UX partitions can be backed up (image only,
> >not files) under MacOS by the software shipped with the tape drive.
> 
> Not quite true.  We received a new Apple tape drive a week ago, and it
> arrived with version 1.1 of the tape backup utility.  We also have an
> older tape drive, and have not received an update of the version 1.1
> software received with it.
> 
> The utilities manual for system 6 says that it requires version 2 of the
> tape backup utility to deal with partitions, but Apple Canada says that
> version 2 has not been released yet, regardless of what the documentation
> says.
> 
> 	Dave Martindale
 I also got a new tape drive with 1.1 software.  The beta 2.0 software, however
was available on AppleLink (v2.0b17) that someone snatched for me (i'm still
waiting of for somebody's old account to be reactivated for my own use)

my opinions are mine

-dave falkenburg
 university of michigan computer aided engineering network
 Internet: falken@caen.engin.umich.edu
 UUCP: umix!caen.engin.umich.edu!falken