[comp.unix.aux] Incredibly cheap hard disks.

alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) (03/18/89)

According to an article in misc.forsale, Newbury Data is getting out of the
USE drive market. They're dumping their products at fantastic prices. For
example, 19ms 380MB SCSI drive for $1395.

The question is, can these be used with A/UX? Has anyone done it? (How about
with the regular Mac OS?)

Alexis Rosen
alexis@ccnysci.uucp

pst@nessus.UUCP (Paul Traina) (03/19/89)

From article <1420@ccnysci.UUCP>, by alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen):
< According to an article in misc.forsale, Newbury Data is getting out of the
< USE drive market. They're dumping their products at fantastic prices. For
< example, 19ms 380MB SCSI drive for $1395.
< 
< The question is, can these be used with A/UX? Has anyone done it? (How about
< with the regular Mac OS?)

I've just purchased one-- I'll be writing a MacOS driver with support for
the new partition map (if necessary),  and depending upon the generic
SCSI driver built into A/UX to deal with it when in A/UX mode.  It would
be simpler if I didn't have to worry about that damned SASH.  Has anyone
played with modifying the old Apple "Example" driver to deal with the
new DPM?
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earleh@northstar.dartmouth.edu (Earle Horton) (03/21/89)

In article <280@nessus.UUCP> pst@nessus.UUCP (Paul Traina) writes:
>From article <1420@ccnysci.UUCP>, by alexis@ccnysci.UUCP (Alexis Rosen):
>< According to an article in misc.forsale, Newbury Data is getting out of the
>< USE drive market. They're dumping their products at fantastic prices. For
>< example, 19ms 380MB SCSI drive for $1395.
>< 
>< The question is, can these be used with A/UX? Has anyone done it? (How about
>< with the regular Mac OS?)
>
>I've just purchased one-- I'll be writing a MacOS driver with support for
>the new partition map (if necessary),  and depending upon the generic
>SCSI driver built into A/UX to deal with it when in A/UX mode.

     If you LIKE writing MacOS drivers, just hit 'n' now.

     Get the "Rodime Driver Utility," version 2.03.  It's on sumex,
and also rascal, I think.  It's a formatter, driver installer,
partitioner, and so forth for Rodime disks.  It was distributed to
these archives by Rodime for the benefit of Rodime owners.  If you
don't think it's "nice" to use it for non-Rodime disks, hit 'n' now.

     Boot with MacsBug installed, and the new disk connected.  Start
up the Rodime program.  Escape to MacsBug.  (I use 6.0, earlier
versions may use different register names, etc.)  Commands entered to
the debugger start with '>' and comments start with ';'.

> GT SCANSCSI
; Choose from the SCSI menu, "Scan SCSI bus."
; Debugger breaks at SCANSCSI
> MR
; You should now be at UPDATESC+000C
> SM A5-10F0+n 1
; Wherein 'n' is the SCSI address of the new disk, an integer from 0
; to 6.  Substitute "ra5" for "a5" with older MacsBug.
> G
; The driver utility program now converses with your disk.  During
; this time, it may or may not emit error messages, which it shows using
; a modal dialog box.  I got "An error has occurred in InquiryDisk Media
; Verification. Code = 4."  I chose to ignore it.  I wasn't, however, working
; with a Newbury hard disk, but rather with an Apple disk, for reasons which
; I will reveal later.
;
; If there are not very many error messages, attempt to format and partition
; the disk using the Rodime Driver Utility.
;

     The Rodime driver seems to know how to set up A/UX partitions.
More exciting to me is that the driver can handle multiple "Apple_HFS"
partitions at once.  I have an Apple HD SC 80, which is a very nice
disk, except that there is no way, using Apple software, to set up
multiple MacOS-mountable partitions on it.  The Rodime software gave
me three independent MacOS partitions (could get more) which makes it
somewhat easier to deal with a disk this size, with the kind of stuff
I have on it.  The driver mounts all three as separate disks, which
the Finder thinks are mounted on "Rodime SCSI Device."

     Performance seems the same as with the Apple HD SC Setup driver,
which I had been using for lack of anything more interesting.  The
Rodime program does allow you to specify interleave and other
interesting hardware-type junk, as well as allowing more interesting
partitioning schemes.

Disclaimer: Be reasonable, folks.  This procedure is for some poor
graduate student (like myself) who somehow gets a SCSI disk which
doesn't come with software that does what [s]he wants.  Use it on your
disk, on your Mac, and you will probably like the results.  Install it
on 20 of them at your employer's place of business, and the fecal
matter will sooner or later hit the air circulation device.

Earle Horton