[comp.unix.aux] can't login from console

marg@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (Margarita Suarez) (06/24/89)

hi, i just inherited a mac II/X with an 80SC with A/UX.  i've not been
able to boot multi-user from the console -- what happens when i type
"telinit 2" is an infinite loop of "login:" immediately followed by
"Login incorrect" (didn't ask for password).

i have a feeling that it could be a hardware problem, but i just wanted
to ask here first on the chance that someone has seen this problem
before and knows how to fix it.

problem is that i don't think columbia has apple support for this disk,
which was basically a "gift" from apple, so any help you could give me
would be great!  (i'd like to use this thing!)

thanks

marg

karish@forel.stanford.edu (Chuck Karish) (06/25/89)

In article <1618@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> marg@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu
(Margarita Suarez) wrote:
>hi, i just inherited a mac II/X with an 80SC with A/UX.  i've not been
>able to boot multi-user from the console -- what happens when i type
>"telinit 2" is an infinite loop of "login:" immediately followed by
>"Login incorrect" (didn't ask for password).

This sounds like what happened once when I had two instances
of `init' running at the same time (on a VAX).  Each `init' starts
a `getty' on each port, and each `getty' reads what the other `getty'
on that port writes.

Are you sure you're using the correct procedure to go to multi-user
mode?

	Chuck Karish		{decwrl,hpda}!mindcrf!karish
	(415) 493-7277		karish@forel.stanford.edu

glenn@vail.gatech.edu (Glenn Souther) (06/27/89)

In article <1618@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> marg@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (Margarita Suarez) writes:
>hi, i just inherited a mac II/X with an 80SC with A/UX.  i've not been
>able to boot multi-user from the console -- what happens when i type
>"telinit 2" is an infinite loop of "login:" immediately followed by
>"Login incorrect" (didn't ask for password).
>
>i have a feeling that it could be a hardware problem, but i just wanted
>to ask here first on the chance that someone has seen this problem
>before and knows how to fix it.
>
>problem is that i don't think columbia has apple support for this disk,
>which was basically a "gift" from apple, so any help you could give me
>would be great!  (i'd like to use this thing!)
>
>thanks
>
>marg
 
 I have seen a similar problem here. However, in our case the machine stays up for
 a while, and later when an account name is entered at login: the machine immediately
 responds with "login incorrect" without asking for a password. We can, however,
 login to the machine via telnet or rlogin. We have seen this problem when some
 process has the console assigned (toolboxdaemon). Killing and restarting the daemon
 fixes the problem. However, I have also seen the problem where nothing is assigned
 to the console. I have reported the problem to apple, but have had no response
 from them.

Glenn Souther
Office of Computing Services
Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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certain@unc.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Certain) (06/27/89)

In article <1618@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu> marg@cunixc.cc.columbia.edu (Margarita
Suarez) writes:
>hi, i just inherited a mac II/X with an 80SC with A/UX.  i've not been
>able to boot multi-user from the console -- what happens when i type
>"telinit 2" is an infinite loop of "login:" immediately followed by
>"Login incorrect" (didn't ask for password).

In article <8595@pyr.gatech.EDU> glenn@aspen.ga.UUCP (Glenn Souther) writes:
>I have seen a similar problem here. However, in our case the machine stays up
>for a while, and later when an account name is entered at login: the machine
>immediately responds with "login incorrect" without asking for a password.

I have also experienced this problem.  I haven't yet determined what the cause
is, but if you have an account that doesn't require a password, you can log
in with that.  For other reasons, we had an account set up that would, if you
were at the console and typed "reboot" at the login prompt, reboot the
machine.  Since this syncs the disks, it isn't as harsh as hitting the reboot
switch.  One day, when this problem arose,  I typed reboot at the login prompt
to reboot the machine, but instead of rebooting the machine, it cleared up the
problem.....  Believe it, or not.

The reboot login is very simple... The .login has logout in it, and .logout
says if tty = console then sync;sync;sync;reboot (written more precisely in
C-Shell script).  I don't claim that this will work everytime or even at all,
and I don't claim that it won't actually reboot your machine.  Proceed at your
own risk.  I'm just telling you my experience.

Andrew Certain
certain@cs.unc.edu

johlas@addamax.UUCP (06/29/89)

In response to the console locking up on AUX:
My AUX used to exhibit this problem and I believe I fixed it by changing
the line in /etc/inittab for the console getty to:
co::respawn:/etc/getty console co_9600 </dev/console >/dev/console 2>&1

Check using "ps -e" to see if the getty's terminal is console.

Good luck :-)

John Johlas
Addamax
2009 Fox Drive
Champaign, IL 61820