mss+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Sherman) (06/01/90)
I recently got AUX 1.1.1 going on my IIci, but find my environment lacking. For starters, does anyone have a suggestion for a multiwindow, mousing, grepping text editor suitable for program development on a Mac IIci running AU/X 1.1.1? I hate ed and vi, and consider emacs to have minimal functionality (Is there an emacs available for AU/X? Or would I have to port gun-emacs myself? I've seen the emacs distribution on apple.com, but that requires completely building it -- see later about gcc/pcc). Ez would be good, but I don't want to invest 100 megabytes into X.11 and ATK just for a program editor (as well as the pain of porting it). I was considering MPW (shell as editor), MEdit and Qued, but MPW 3.0 doesn't seem to run on my IIci (it hangs the system) while MEdit (and MS Word) cannot convert between the formats used for new lines and do not recognize non-Mac files (or rather, when I force them to recognize non-Mac files, the resulting files becomes a Mac file which I then cannot feed to ordinary Unix programs). While I have your attention, anyone know of a port of gdb to AU/X 1.1.1 that will run on a Mac IIci? Or even gcc/pcc? The pcc is particularly important since I am compiling programs with verylarge numbers of "defines" in them which blows away the AUX (-B /usr/lib/big) preprocessor. I tried using the pcc that is part of the emacs distribution, but the resulting program (1) goes into a loop when I feed it a file; (2) does not process include's correctly (claims it cannot find files), (3) outputs garbage (well, it almost looks like pcc output, but lots of things are wrong, like lack of new-lines, missing hash marks, and so on). I do not know the story of the gcc on apple.com. I assume that is only the actual compiler and not a combination of preprocessor, compiler, optimizer and assembler. Does anyone have a good suggestions? -Mark
palmer@tallis.enet.dec.com (Colonel Mode) (06/02/90)
I'm a die-hard VMS user. Are there any editors that will run under AUX that have an EDT compatibility mode or at least an EDT keypad? Also, does AUX support a separate file with no world access for the actual passwords so that naughty users can't use a password cracking program that uses the passwd file? ***** Chris Palmer palmer@tallis.enet.dec.com phone (508)486-6667 dtn 226-6667
rmtodd@uokmax.uucp (Richard Michael Todd) (06/02/90)
mss+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Sherman) writes: >minimal functionality (Is there an emacs available for AU/X? Or would I >have to port gun-emacs myself? I've seen the emacs distribution on >apple.com, but that requires completely building it -- see later about >gcc/pcc). Ez would be good, but I don't want to invest 100 megabytes Well, the GNU-Emacs distribution on apple.com is already ported, all you need to do is compile it. As I recall from an earlier version (the GNU Emacs 18.44 port that shipped with A/UX 1.0) it compiled just fine with the stock cc. I think someone out there has already-built binaries of GNU Emacs 18.55 for A/UX avail. for anon. ftp, if not I can probably make my (somewhat out-of-date v18.44) copy available. >but MPW 3.0 doesn't seem to run on my IIci (it hangs the system) while Rumour has it that MPW will run (with a minor patch) on A/UX 2.0, but not 1.1. Get yer upgrade orders in now... >attention, anyone know of a port of gdb to AU/X 1.1.1 >that will run on a Mac IIci? Or even gcc/pcc? The pcc is particularly Somebody posted here some time back about having ported GDB to A/UX, but I don't recall seeing any announcements of availability of the port (via anon. ftp, etc.). I'd *love* to get ahold of this one. For GCC v1.37, grab the distribution from apple.com. >marks, and so on). I do not know the story of the gcc on apple.com. I >assume that is only the actual compiler and not a combination of >preprocessor, compiler, optimizer and assembler. You assume wrong. The gcc distribution includes binaries for the C preprocessor and the main compiler itself (includes all optimization), as well as the "gcc" driver program which calls the various passes. You use the standard A/UX assembler. -- Richard Todd rmtodd@chinet.chi.il.us or rmtodd@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
coolidge@roy.cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge) (06/03/90)
mss+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Sherman) writes: >Is there an emacs available for AU/X? Or would I >have to port gun-emacs myself? I've seen the emacs distribution on >apple.com, but that requires completely building it -- see later about >gcc/pcc. The emacs on apple.com is (almost) completely ported to A/UX. The only problem I've seen is that the emacsclient program doesn't work. Other than that, it seems to do quite well. >While I have your >attention, anyone know of a port of gdb to AU/X 1.1.1 >that will run on a Mac IIci? Several people are working on it, I think, but nothing's out yet. >I do not know the story of the gcc on apple.com. I >assume that is only the actual compiler and not a combination of >preprocessor, compiler, optimizer and assembler. The gcc on apple.com includes (last I checked, anyway) the entire package: preprocessor, compiler, and optimizer. By default it uses the A/UX assembler, which is powerful enough to handle assembling anything gcc's thrown it in my experience (including gcc itself, X11R4, g++, emacs, and various other large packages). It does occasional drop branch optimizations on the floor, but that doesn't actually break anything and I doubt they mean much at all in terms of performance, especially given the performance win gcc turns out to be. Gcc produces very good optimized code (much better than A/UX's cc). It's also not subject to the table-size bogosities of A/UX's cc. In other words: get it! --John -------------------------------------------------------------------------- John L. Coolidge Internet:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu UUCP:uiucdcs!coolidge Of course I don't speak for the U of I (or anyone else except myself) Copyright 1990 John L. Coolidge. Copying allowed if (and only if) attributed. You may redistribute this article if and only if your recipients may as well.