jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway Jr.) (06/08/90)
In the continuing war of me against netland, (I love A/UX 2.0, but would love to do something cruel & disgusting to uucp/sendmail/etc) I am currently in a battle with cron (maybe). I can receive and send mail just fine (the from address is still my uucp address instead of my internet address, but I've given up on that battle for the moment). It gets sent out to my sponsoring site (fernwood) via uuxp and all is well, as long as I (as root) execute uucico (or /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.hr) by hand from a command shell. If I set cron up to do so automatically, files are pulled in, but something goes wrong when the X.* files are processed as shown below. I have tried making /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt a shell script which saves the files and then executes the real uuxqt, but that does not work (and perhaps would not help anyway). Adding a -x9 to the uucico line in uudemon.hr shows no problems (which makes sense since the uucp part seems to work, and rmail doesn't have any debug/diag switches, that I know of) I also have alteered uudemon.hr so the shell vars/env is identical to that i get when logged in as root, still no help. Does anyone know what this is? CONTENTS OF /usr/spool/uucp/LOGFILE on errant mail processing: fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:06) (C,4302,0) OK (DIRECT tty90 0) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:38) (C,4302,0) SUCCEEDED (call to fernwood ) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:46) (C,4302,0) OK (startup) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:48) (C,4302,0) REQUESTED (S D.fernw2a88185 D.fernw2a881 85 root) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:52) (C,4302,1) REQUESTED (S D.gallo225f4ab X.gallowaN22 5f root) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:56) (C,4302,2) OK (conversation complete tty90 50) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:57) (Q,4305,0) root XQT (rmail jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us ) fernwood!uucp (6/7-22:07:58) (Q,4305,0) ret (1000) from fernwood!root (MAIL FAIL ) fernwood!daemon (6/7-22:08:01) (X,4313,0) XQT QUE'D (rmail root@fernwood.UUCP ) CONTENTS of the D.* file enqueued as the last item above is: From root Thu Jun 7 22:07:59 1990 remote from galloway Received: by galloway.sj.ca.us (5.61/SMI-3.2) id AA04310; Thu, 7 Jun 90 22:07:59 PDT, Date: Thu, 7 Jun 90 22:07:59 PDT From: galloway!root Message-Id: <9006080507.AA04310@galloway.sj.ca.us> To: fernwood!root Mail failed (PATH=/bin:/usr/bin LOGNAME=uucp TZ=`/bin/cat rmail jrg@galloway.sj. ca.us ). Letter returned to sender. The particular mail that cuased this problem was sent form apple.com to jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us and is processed fine if /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.hr is executed on the command line in a command shell instead of from cron. CONTENTS of crontab file: 7 4,10,16,22 * * 1,2,3,4,5,6 /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.hr 30 3 * * 1,2,3,4,5,6 /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.day 0 9 * * 0 /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.wk CONTENTS of /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.hr: #!/bin/sh : : uudemon.hr : # @(#)uudemon.hr UniPlus V.2.1.2 (UniSoft 1.2) # 'perform every 6 hours on the 7-minute mark' # Copyright 1988 Apple Computer, Inc. LOGNAME=uucp export LOGNAME PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/mac/bin:/etc:/usr/etc:/usr/lib/uucp:. export PATH cd /usr/spool/uucp /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -sfernwood thanks for any and all help. -jrg -- internet jrg@apple.com John R. Galloway, Jr. (soon to be) jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us applelink d3413 CEO..receptionist 795 Beaver Creek Way human (408) 259-2490 Galloway Research San Jose, CA 95133 These are my views, NOT Apple's, I am a GUEST here, not an employee!!
rmtodd@servalan.uucp (Richard Todd) (06/09/90)
Note: I don't have A/UX 2.0, so all my replies below are based on 1.1. I'm assuming that the A/UX 2.0 uucp is bug-for-bug compatible with the 1.1 one :-) jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway Jr.) writes: > In the continuing war of me against netland, (I love A/UX 2.0, but >would love to do something cruel & disgusting to uucp/sendmail/etc) I am Don't worry, *everybody* wants to do something cruel and disgusting with sendmail :-) >currently in a battle with cron (maybe). I can receive and send mail just fine >(the from address is still my uucp address instead of my internet address, but >I've given up on that battle for the moment). It gets sent out to my sponsoring Hmm...this is probably a problem with sendmail somewhere; at least, I quit seeing it when I started using Smail 2.5 and Deliver to handle my mail. I recommend this setup if you're a uucp-only site; obviously, if you need the SMTP-handling capability of sendmail, you'll either have to get sendmail and smail 2.5 to cooperate (supposedly this is possible, but I've never met anyone who understood sendmail.cf well enough to do it!) or try one of the Smail 3.0 alpha releases that's floating around out there. >site (fernwood) via uuxp and all is well, as long as I (as root) execute uucico >(or /usr/lib/uucp/uudemon.hr) by hand from a command shell. If I set cron >up to do so automatically, files are pulled in, but something goes wrong when >the X.* files are processed as shown below. I have tried making /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt is known (at least under 1.1) to freak severely (start eating queued jobs without trace) if the TZ environment variable is not set. Why does it do this? Beats me; after all, the /etc/zoneinfo/localtime link is there *specifically* to tell what the default timezone is so programs won't need the TZ env variable except in special cases. Anyway, cron does *not* set the TZ env. variable, but the default .profile files supplied in A/UX do, so uuxqt always works when run from your login shell, but not from the cron job. Here's the script I use for polling uokmax; you'll probably want to change the first (blank) line to read "#!/bin/sh", since the #! construct is available in 2.0... ----- # This shouldn't be necessary as uucico is *supposed* to check for lock # files. # (Note: lock files seem to work in 1.1) TZ=CST6CDT;export TZ #if [ ! -f /usr/spool/uucp/LCK..uokmax ] #then /usr/lib/uucp/uucico -r1 -suokmax #fi ----- (The commented-out portions were a work-around for a bug in A/UX 1.0 UUCP, which didn't check for lock files properly. Made life interesting when you had 2 uucicos talking to the same machine over the same modem...) -- Richard Todd rmtodd@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu rmtodd@chinet.chi.il.us rmtodd@servalan.uucp
jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway Jr.) (06/09/90)
In article <1990Jun8.174503.3125@servalan.uucp>, rmtodd@servalan.uucp (Richard Todd) writes: > Note: I don't have A/UX 2.0, so all my replies below are based on 1.1. I'm > assuming that the A/UX 2.0 uucp is bug-for-bug compatible with the 1.1 one :-) > > jrg@Apple.COM (John R. Galloway Jr.) writes: > > [a sad saga of how i could not get cron to execute uucp stuff] > > /usr/lib/uucp/uuxqt is known (at least under 1.1) to freak severely (start > eating queued jobs without trace) if the TZ environment variable is not set. > Why does it do this? Beats me; after all, the /etc/zoneinfo/localtime link is > there *specifically* to tell what the default timezone is so programs won't > need the TZ env variable except in special cases. > Anyway, cron does *not* set the TZ env. variable, but the default .profile > files supplied in A/UX do, so uuxqt always works when run from your login > shell, but not from the cron job. Here's the script I use for polling uokmax; > you'll probably want to change the first (blank) line to read "#!/bin/sh", > since the #! construct is available in 2.0... > -- > Richard Todd rmtodd@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu rmtodd@chinet.chi.il.us > rmtodd@servalan.uucp YES!!! this was it, setting up TZ in the various scripts made it all work. Thanks Richard. -jrg -- internet jrg@apple.com John R. Galloway, Jr. (soon to be) jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us applelink d3413 CEO..receptionist 795 Beaver Creek Way human (408) 259-2490 Galloway Research San Jose, CA 95133 These are my views, NOT Apple's, I am a GUEST here, not an employee!!
jsb@panix.UUCP (J. S. B'ach) (06/14/90)
We had the same problem here and setting TZ fixed ours too. Another problem we still have, because we run news, is that uuxqt gives up unbatching our news because it runs out of pipes. We upped the pipe count in the kernel yet it still occurs. Anyone else out there notice this problem? -jim (apple!panix!jsb) -- jim (rutgers!cmcl2!panix!jsb, uunet!jyacc!jsb, or apple!panix!jsb) " If you tries to say something else then would you mind to say *clearly* what you meant? " -- Hillel
alexis@panix.UUCP (Alexis Rosen) (06/14/90)
Speaking of which, it seems to me that the various uucp cron jobs should be running out of a uucp crontab. Instead, as shipped, they run out of root's crontab. Why is this? (Also, why did setting TZ become necessary? It used to work without touching TZ in any way.) Alexis Rosen A/UX victim alexis@panix.uucp apple!panix!alexis