pcaloca@synoptics.COM (Paul Caloca) (09/14/90)
Does anyone know of a driver for a Kinetics EtherPort II that AUX will work with? Are there any other ethernet cards and drivers that AUX can recognize? The friendly Apple Technical AnswerLine folks say only the Apple Ethernet card will operate with AUX 2.0 and they are expensive and in short supply. I've just installed AUX 2.0 on my Mac IIfx and it crashes when AUX is started. Apple suggested I remove the EtherPort card and restart and all works fine, but I now have no access to my NFS network and TCP/IP. Can someone let me know where I can ftp a driver for the card or recommend an alternate ethernet card/driver combo that works? Thanks in advance for your assistance. Email responses would be greatly appreciated. ======================================================================== Paul Caloca | "Minds are like parachutes - Technical Support | they ony function when open." SynOptics Communications | Mountain View, CA |==================== Thomas Dewar Email: Paul_Caloca.SALES@engtwomac.synoptics.com UUCP: ...!ames.arc.nasa.gov!synoptics.com!engtwomac!Paul_Caloca.SALES FAX: 415-967-8710 ========================================================================
steveg@ni.umd.edu (Steve Green) (09/15/90)
In article <21926@mvis1.com> pcaloca@synoptics.COM (Paul Caloca) writes: > >Does anyone know of a driver for a Kinetics EtherPort II that AUX will >work with? Are there any other ethernet cards and drivers that AUX >can recognize? The friendly Apple Technical AnswerLine folks say only >the Apple Ethernet card will operate with AUX 2.0 and they are expensive >and in short supply. Thats almost correct. Since the Apple card is actually a 3Com card, the 3com card will also work. As well, Assante makes ethernet cards that are Apple/3Com compatable. I have used the 3Com and the Assante 10 base T cards with AUX 2.0 successfully. The Assante 10 base 2 (I dunno 'bout the others) will operate in 32 or 24 bit mode under MacOS. I assume that it operates in 24 bit mode under AUX as does the Apple/3Com card. Strangly, the Assante 10 base T card did not work with the Apple router last time I tried. --- "Silica gel -- No not eat." steveg@umd5.umd.edu -- --- Silica gel -- No not eat.
einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) (09/16/90)
In article <1990Sep14.230450.7039@ni.umd.edu> steveg@ni.umd.edu (Steve Green) writes: >In article <21926@mvis1.com> pcaloca@synoptics.COM (Paul Caloca) writes: >> >>Does anyone know of a driver for a Kinetics EtherPort II that AUX will >>work with? Are there any other ethernet cards and drivers that AUX >>can recognize? The friendly Apple Technical AnswerLine folks say only >>the Apple Ethernet card will operate with AUX 2.0 and they are expensive >>and in short supply. > Jim Jagielski (jim@jag2.gsfc.nasa.gov) has made A/UX 1.1 drivers for the EtherPort II available for anon ftp on his machine. Jim says the driver works fine with A/UX 2.0. He had to make only a minor adjustment to the installation script. He warns that the driver only supports TCP/IP. Kinetics was bought out an broken into pieces scattered around the country. Spent a frustrating day calling wrong numbers and being referred to other wrong numbers. Novell (408/473-8700) is continuing to manufacture and sell newer versions of the EtherPort II. They also provide Tech Support for the older versions. They can send you a current MacOS driver you can use to determine whether your card is broken or you are having problems with the AUX install. Hardware documentation for the older cards is out of print, but you can talk to someone in Tech Support who will look things up for you. Don't mention A/UX until you actually get to talk to a Tech Support person who is knowledgeable about the EtherPort. Otherwise you will be referred to Dayna Communications. Dayna (801/531-0600) is writing new drivers to provide full support for an assortment of protocols under A/UX 2.0. Recieved an anonymous note from a Novell employee who was unable to obtain drivers for his Etherport II and got his boss to buy him an Apple card. Don't know if the Dayna drivers are available yet. Will have to call them again Monday morning. I am in the midst of attempting to install the 1.1 driver on my IIci. Jim notes that these drivers are for the OLDER version of the EtherPort II. Should find a sticker on the back of the card that indicates: 9800048-xx or 9800083-xx. So far so good. Followed Jims instructions and built an new kernel. Rebooted. A/UX came up without a hitch. Fixed up my /etc/hosts. Installed the card in the IIci. Hooked it up to the ethernet. Rebooted another time. Tried a ping. "sendto: Network is unreachable". Did a netstat. There is no route. Time to read TFM. Found instructions about a bunch of stuff I had already done. Took a closer look at the files that came from Jim's tar file. startup_ep is a script that is installed as /etc/startup.d/ep, it asks questions and sets a lot of things up that need to be setup. What command do I have to issue to get its argument list built and the script executed? Thanks, -- einhorn@triton.unm.edu
liam@cs.qmw.ac.uk (William Roberts) (09/17/90)
In <21926@mvis1.com> pcaloca@synoptics.COM (Paul Caloca) writes: >Does anyone know of a driver for a Kinetics EtherPort II that AUX will >work with? Are there any other ethernet cards and drivers that AUX >can recognize? The friendly Apple Technical AnswerLine folks say only >the Apple Ethernet card will operate with AUX 2.0 and they are expensive >and in short supply. The Apple Technical AnswerLine folks are being economical with the truth. The A/UX 1.1.1 driver for the old Kinetics Etherport II card will work with A/UX 2.0, but it won't support the EtherTalk printing. It is enough to give you NFS and TCP however. >I've just installed AUX 2.0 on my Mac IIfx and it crashes when AUX is >started. Apple suggested I remove the EtherPort card and restart and >all works fine, but I now have no access to my NFS network and TCP/IP. >Can someone let me know where I can ftp a driver for the card or >recommend an alternate ethernet card/driver combo that works? You must NOT enable the Kinetics Ethernet driver under MacOS before you boot A/UX. Apart from that advice, I know no reason why the Etherport II card shouldn't work on your IIfx - it worked fine in a IIfx I had for 1 day running A?UX 2.0 b10. -- William Roberts ARPA: liam@cs.qmw.ac.uk Queen Mary & Westfield College UUCP: liam@qmw-cs.UUCP Mile End Road AppleLink: UK0087 LONDON, E1 4NS, UK Tel: 071-975 5250 (Fax: 081-980 6533)
jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) (09/17/90)
In article <1990Sep15.193047.11354@ariel.unm.edu> einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) writes: > >So far so good. Followed Jims instructions and built an new kernel. >Rebooted. A/UX came up without a hitch. Fixed up my /etc/hosts. >Installed the card in the IIci. Hooked it up to the ethernet. >Rebooted another time. Tried a ping. "sendto: Network is unreachable". >Did a netstat. There is no route. Time to read TFM. > Make sure that the /etc/NETADDRS file is correct as well as /etc/HOSTNAME > >Found instructions about a bunch of stuff I had already done. Took a >closer look at the files that came from Jim's tar file. startup_ep is >a script that is installed as /etc/startup.d/ep, it asks questions and >sets a lot of things up that need to be setup. What command do I have >to issue to get its argument list built and the script executed? > This script should be run when the EPII-kernel is booted for the 1st time. It gets the host name, domain name, IP adrresss, etc... from the user and puts them in the appropriate files: /etc/HOSTNAME and /etcNETADDRS. If you remove these files and reboot, the script should be rerun again, otherwise edit them to what they should be. The formats of the files are: HOSTNAME: 1st field = host name 2nd field = domain name NETADDRS: 1st field = Ethernet logical unit # 2nd field = IP address 3rd field = IP broadcast address 4th field = netmask Good luck! -- ======================================================================= #include <std/disclaimer.h> =:^) Jim Jagielski NASA/GSFC, Code 711.1 jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov Greenbelt, MD 20771 "Kilimanjaro is a pretty tricky climb. Most of it's up, until you reach the very, very top, and then it tends to slope away rather sharply."
powers@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (09/18/90)
In article <21926@mvis1.com>, pcaloca@synoptics.COM (Paul Caloca) writes: > I've just installed AUX 2.0 on my Mac IIfx and it crashes when AUX is > started. Apple suggested I remove the EtherPort card and restart and > all works fine, but I now have no access to my NFS network and TCP/IP. > Can someone let me know where I can ftp a driver for the card or > recommend an alternate ethernet card/driver combo that works? > Gee, I'm going to order an ethernet card real soon now for my fx that will soon be running AUX 2.0. I was intending to purchase the Asante Mac Cone IIe, does anyone know if this card works ? Mark Powers Academic Computer Service Miami University
einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) (09/19/90)
In article <1990Sep15.193047.11354@ariel.unm.edu> I wrote: >> >>So far so good. Followed Jims instructions and built an new kernel. >>Rebooted. A/UX came up without a hitch. Fixed up my /etc/hosts. >>Installed the card in the IIci. Hooked it up to the ethernet. >>Rebooted another time. Tried a ping. "sendto: Network is unreachable". >>Did a netstat. There is no route. Time to read TFM. >> > Didn't find the answer in TFM (It may be there). Found the solution by trial and error. I did not understand the automatic kernel reconfiguration process. I now believe that ethernet card must be installed in the nubus when the installation script is run. I had thought the installation script just insured that the pieces of the kernel were left in the right places and the nubus was not interrogated until the time of the actual boot. When I reran the installation script with the ethernet card installed and then rebooted the system one more time: the startup script was executed, I was prompted to enter an IP address, broadcast address, and netmask, /etc/NETADDRS was built, and the ethernet connection came up. Thanks Jim for making the drivers available and for your suggestions. On to the next problem. Apple Tech Support says that I need to get a patch tape from Sun before my NFS mount will work and they will call me back later with more info. Called Sun with with partial info and they are sending me a patch file. I think this news group needs a period posting of where to find resources, especially a list of known problems and the solutions or workarounds. -- einhorn@triton.unm.edu
justin@Apple.COM (Justin Walker) (09/24/90)
In article <3429@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes: >In article <1990Sep15.193047.11354@ariel.unm.edu> einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) writes: >This script should be run when the EPII-kernel is booted for the 1st time. >It gets the host name, domain name, IP adrresss, etc... from the user and puts >them in the appropriate files: /etc/HOSTNAME and /etcNETADDRS. If you remove >these files and reboot, the script should be rerun again, otherwise edit them >to what they should be. For A/UX 2.0, the startup scripts shouldn't try to chat with the user; this should be done at "newconfig" time instead. The 2.0 startup regimen assumes NO user interactions. > Jim Jagielski NASA/GSFC, Code 711.1 > jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov Greenbelt, MD 20771 Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large (justin@apple.com) * A/UX Group *------------------| Apple Computer, Inc. | When meetings are outlawed, 10440 Bubb Rd, | Only outlaws will have meetings Cupertino, CA 95014 *
jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) (09/24/90)
In article <45070@apple.Apple.COM> justin@Apple.COM (Justin Walker) writes: >In article <3429@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes: >>In article <1990Sep15.193047.11354@ariel.unm.edu> einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) writes: >>This script should be run when the EPII-kernel is booted for the 1st time. >>It gets the host name, domain name, IP adrresss, etc... from the user and puts >>them in the appropriate files: /etc/HOSTNAME and /etcNETADDRS. If you remove >>these files and reboot, the script should be rerun again, otherwise edit them >>to what they should be. > For A/UX 2.0, the startup scripts shouldn't try to chat with the > user; this should be done at "newconfig" time instead. The 2.0 startup > regimen assumes NO user interactions. > As mentioned before... these drivers and docs are for 1.1 although they will work for 2.0 (that is the driver part) they are not 2.0 aware or "tuned". Hopefully the new drivers from Dayna will be better. -- ======================================================================= #include <std/disclaimer.h> =:^) Jim Jagielski NASA/GSFC, Code 711.1 jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov Greenbelt, MD 20771 "Kilimanjaro is a pretty tricky climb. Most of it's up, until you reach the very, very top, and then it tends to slope away rather sharply."
einhorn@triton.unm.edu (E Drew Einhorn ADV.SCI.Inc) (09/25/90)
In article <3479@dftsrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagmac2.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes: >Hopefully the new drivers from Dayna will be better. I was talking to a Tech Support guy at Novell and he told me that the new Dayna drivers will only support the new half size Etherport II cards. If that's true those of us with old full size Etherport II cards are going to have to live with the 1.1 drivers or write our own. -- einhorn@triton.unm.edu
liam@cs.qmw.ac.uk (William Roberts) (09/25/90)
In <45070@apple.Apple.COM> justin@Apple.COM (Justin Walker) writes: > For A/UX 2.0, the startup scripts shouldn't try to chat with the > user; this should be done at "newconfig" time instead. The 2.0 startup > regimen assumes NO user interactions. Perhaps you should change the /etc/startup.d/ae6 script in that case, since it prompts the user for information if it is unable to read the stored information in /etc/NETADDRS. In my experience, the usual reason for being asked these questions is that the root file system is so full that pipes no longer work, so the lines set ''`/bin/sed -n "/^[ ]*$unit/p" /etc/NETADDRS` n=$# inetaddr=$2; broadcast=$3; netmask=$4 don't work and the script prompts for things to replace the null values. This condition is self-fulfilling, because the answers don't get used, and the file system is actually likely to be full of half-made kernel fragment. Request: could autoconfig please immediately remove the file /unix, before attempting to build a new one - that way we only need 2.5 kernels worth of free space, rather than 3.5 kernels. -- William Roberts ARPA: liam@cs.qmw.ac.uk Queen Mary & Westfield College UUCP: liam@qmw-cs.UUCP Mile End Road AppleLink: UK0087 LONDON, E1 4NS, UK Tel: 071-975 5250 (Fax: 081-980 6533)