[comp.unix.aux] Running NCSA Telnet under A/UX

hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel) (01/08/91)

I'm writing to you all via NCSA Telnet running under A/UX 2.0 ....   :)

Again - my thanks to everyone who responded to my question.  There were 
three key pieces of information I needed.

(1) Define the hardware properly in the NCSA Telnet configuration file.

       I changed hardware=AppleTalk to hardware=Ether

Thanks to Antonio Ordonez for that tip.

(2) Reconfigure the A/UX kernel for networking.

Some suggested /etc/newconfig nfs, others suggested /etc/newconfig bnet.
I just picked nfs because I've heard of it and used it before. It worked.
(I panicked momententarily  when it wanted a broadcast address. "hunh?" 
But I just gave it my IP address number again ... seemed to work).

Thanks to Don Gilbert (and Tim Deeves and Stacey Irvine).

(3) NCSA Telnet under A/UX 2.0 doesn't recognize names, only IP addresses.

This is subtle - and could be a simple unix problem. When I'm logged in 
as root, NCSA Telnet DOES recognize the names.  But when I'm logged in 
as me (hbh), it does NOT. But it DOES telnet fine when I give it the 
IP address.   My /etc/host file looks fine (to my inexperienced eyes) 
and is readable by user, group, and world.  I just redefined all my 
defaults to IP addresses instead of names; everything is (apparently) 
okay now.  Any guesses on this problem?

Thanks to Thomas Lenggenhager for this info.

Note added in press ;-): Matthias Urlichs says it's an NCSA Telnet bug - 
but then why does it work fine when the user is root?  If it were a bug 
with the way NCSA Telnet communicates with the "external" world, I would 
have thought that the username shouldn't matter .....

Some other comments......

Francisco DeJesus said: "You don't need to run NCSA Telnet; just open a 
command window and run regular unix telnet."   Welllll, yes and no.  That 
does work, sort of.  But certain commands don't work under regular telnet.  
For example, when I type "rn" (to read news),  I get the error message "no 
termcap entry found." Under NCSA telnet, "rn" works fine.  So the defaults 
for regular telnet are not correct (I guess).  Also, under NCSA Telnet I 
can easily define the location and color of my windows to other machines. 
The key word in that sentence is "easily."  I'm sometimes logged into three 
different machines at once, and it helps to have them color coded.

I haven't tried eliminating the non-32-bit-clean message yet.  It's 
annoying, but doesn't interfere with working. That's the next thing ;-).
Things like "ResEdit" scare me ... ;-) Remember, I _said_ I was new to
the Mac World .....

I don't have any manual which has a Chapter 9 "Setting up accounts and
peripherals in A/UX."   :-(  I also don't have the A/UX Command reference 
either, or anything related to networking. Amazing I've gotten as far as 
I have, eh? ;-).  I got TWO sets of the intro manuals (System Overview, 
Getting Started, Communication User's Guide, User Interface) - guess I was 
ripped off.  These intro ones don't go as deep as I seem to have sunk so 
far ;) and it looks like I'm just sinking deeper and deeper ....... ;) ;)

heidi
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------   Heidi B. Hammel      (hbh@athena.mit.edu)     MIT 54-316
--       Department of Earth, Atmospheric, and Planetary Sciences

kanefsky@cs.umn.edu (Steve Kanefsky) (01/08/91)

In article <1991Jan7.180306.11264@athena.mit.edu> hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel) writes:
>
>Some suggested /etc/newconfig nfs, others suggested /etc/newconfig bnet.
>I just picked nfs because I've heard of it and used it before. It worked.
>(I panicked momententarily  when it wanted a broadcast address. "hunh?" 
>But I just gave it my IP address number again ... seemed to work).

If your address is www.xxx.yyy.zzz then your broadcast address is usually
www.xxx.yyy.255
>the Mac World .....
>
>I don't have any manual which has a Chapter 9 "Setting up accounts and
>peripherals in A/UX."   :-(  I also don't have the A/UX Command reference 
>either, or anything related to networking. Amazing I've gotten as far as 
>I have, eh? ;-).  I got TWO sets of the intro manuals (System Overview, 
>Getting Started, Communication User's Guide, User Interface) - guess I was 
>ripped off.  These intro ones don't go as deep as I seem to have sunk so 
>far ;) and it looks like I'm just sinking deeper and deeper ....... ;) ;)

I believe that Setting up Accounts and Peripherals is an entire bound
manual that comes standard with A/UX as part of the Accessory Kit.

-- 
Steve Kanefsky             
kanefsky@cs.umn.edu 

cwilson@NISC.SRI.COM (Chan Wilson [Animal]) (01/16/91)

hbh@athena.mit.edu (Heidi Hammel) writes:

>I'm writing to you all via NCSA Telnet running under A/UX 2.0 ....   :)
[...]
>Some other comments......

>Francisco DeJesus said: "You don't need to run NCSA Telnet; just open a 
>command window and run regular unix telnet."   Welllll, yes and no.  That 
>does work, sort of.  But certain commands don't work under regular telnet.  
>For example, when I type "rn" (to read news),  I get the error message "no 
>termcap entry found." Under NCSA telnet, "rn" works fine.  So the defaults 
>for regular telnet are not correct (I guess).  Also, under NCSA Telnet I 
>can easily define the location and color of my windows to other machines. 
>The key word in that sentence is "easily."  I'm sometimes logged into three 
>different machines at once, and it helps to have them color coded.

hmm, can't help with the color issue, (other than running xterms, heh),
but my solution to the "no termcap entry found" was the addition of the
mac2 termcap entry to the destination machine's /etc/termcap.  Nice,
clean, simple, and goes away when you upgrade those machines.  Ooops.

>I don't have any manual which has a Chapter 9 "Setting up accounts and
>peripherals in A/UX."   :-(  I also don't have the A/UX Command reference 

Myself, I'd like to see a 'useful things to do and know concerning
a/ux' short pamphlet thingy.  Like, how to show bootup messages, how
to add routes to the route tables, how to disable this, how to enable
that, the best (and only) place for 3 button mice for use with X
windows, that sort of thing.  Some stuff that is scattered around the
manuals, and some stuff that is scattered around the net...

well, just my piece of the kernel...

--Chan
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