[comp.unix.aux] A/UX without Ethernet hardware

pauls@truevision.com (Paul Scherf) (04/11/91)

I have gotten a couple boxes full of A/UX software and documentation
dropped on my desk.  I managed to get A/UX installed and running,
but my Mac (a IIfx) doesn't have Ethernet hardware.

When my Mac ran only MacOS, I ran NCSA telnet to remote login to UNIX machines.
I have been led to believe that NCSA telnet pushes TCP/IP (or UDP?)
packets through Appletalk.  (Is encapsulation the right term here?)
I believe some sort of Appletalk/Ethernet bridge
converts the packets back and forth between Appletalk and Ethernet format.

I would like to have A/UX push TCP/IP (and UDP) packets through Appletalk.
So I can run rlogin or telnet to the UNIX machines on the Ethernet.
(I figure this will be slower than having a real Ethernet card.
For rlogin/telnet, it might be fast enough.)

Is there a way to accomplish this?  Is ifconfig the right command?
What does the A/UX kernel call the Appletalk interface?

Paul Scherf
pauls@truevision.com
Truevision Inc., Indianapolis, IN

ksand@Apple.COM (Kent Sandvik) (04/13/91)

In article <1991Apr11.151740.24539@truevision.com> pauls@truevision.com (Paul Scherf) writes:
>I have gotten a couple boxes full of A/UX software and documentation
>dropped on my desk.  I managed to get A/UX installed and running,
>but my Mac (a IIfx) doesn't have Ethernet hardware.
>
>When my Mac ran only MacOS, I ran NCSA telnet to remote login to UNIX machines.
>I have been led to believe that NCSA telnet pushes TCP/IP (or UDP?)
>packets through Appletalk.  (Is encapsulation the right term here?)
>I believe some sort of Appletalk/Ethernet bridge
>converts the packets back and forth between Appletalk and Ethernet format.

>I would like to have A/UX push TCP/IP (and UDP) packets through Appletalk.
>So I can run rlogin or telnet to the UNIX machines on the Ethernet.
>(I figure this will be slower than having a real Ethernet card.
>For rlogin/telnet, it might be fast enough.)

>Is there a way to accomplish this?  Is ifconfig the right command?
>What does the A/UX kernel call the Appletalk interface?

Someone correct me if I'm totally lost in the weed, but MacOS MacTCP
drivers do the IP/DDP encapsulation. Now A/UX translates MacTCP parameter
block calls to low level socket calls, and there's no code for DDP/IP
encapsulation as such.

Maybe something like that would be easy to implement, especially if the 
socket TCP/IP part would be streams based (which isn't the case just 
now).

Kent Sandvik

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Kent Sandvik, DTS junkie