[comp.unix.aux] Ethernet card help

cy0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad O. Yoshikawa) (05/01/91)

I was planning on buying an ethernet card in the very near future(I have a IIci
currently), and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on which
one to buy?  I want thick - and the option of thin on the card would be
nice but not necessary.  (Also, if there are any compatibility problems
with aux--could you let me know)
    I would appreciate any suggestions mailed to me,

Thanks,
Chad

1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn) (05/02/91)

In article <Ic7fs1y00WBM80zIcu@andrew.cmu.edu>, cy0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad O. Yoshikawa) writes:
> 
> I was planning on buying an ethernet card in the very near future(I have a II
> ci currently), and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on which
> one to buy?

Hey, I get to do a ME TOO post!  I've got an a/ux IIci on order that I
had to spec out in a matter of hours, and I was too unclear about
just what Apple ethernet cards WERE these days to want to risk buying
the wrong thing.

I want ThinWire, could live with AUI, can't deal with twisted pair,
would like to avoid Apple's "you're trapped forever with our weird
implementation" gear but am more interested in avoiding 3rd-party
drivers that are always a few OS releases behind.

This has the look & feel of a Frequently Asked Question, but I've
only been looking closely at this newsgroup for a week or so (since
I ordered a/ux), and if such a things has been posted much earlier
than that, I probably missed it.

Thanks.

Christopher Gunn	Molecular Graphics and Modeling Lab
SPAN--KUPHSX::GUNN	Department of Medicinal Chemistry, Malott Hall
913-864-4428 or -4495	University of Kansas, Lawrence, KS  66045

herbw@wiskit.rain.com (Herb Weiner) (05/05/91)

In article <Ic7fs1y00WBM80zIcu@andrew.cmu.edu>,
cy0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad O. Yoshikawa) writes: 

> I was planning on buying an ethernet card in the very near future (I have
> a II ci currently), and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice
> on which one to buy?

In article <1991May1.151300.30263@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
1k1mgm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Christopher Gunn) writes:

> Hey, I get to do a ME TOO post!

The card you both want is the Asante MacCon+ II E-64 Ethernet Card.  It
supports Thick and Thin Ethernet (switch selectable), has 64 KB of RAM,
is register compatible with the Apple Card (which means that you can
use Apple's drivers, and don't have to depend on the manufacturer to
supply new drivers with each new release).  It was recommended in Alexis'
MacUser article reviewing A/UX 2.0.  (Thanks, Alexis!)

Asante can be reached at (800) 662-9686.  (They also make a card that
supports 10-Base-T Twisted Pair Cable -- that's the ET-64 version.)

Herb Weiner

mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer) (05/07/91)

>In article <Ic7fs1y00WBM80zIcu@andrew.cmu.edu>, cy0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad O. Yoshikawa) writes:
> 
> I was planning on buying an ethernet card in the very near future(I have a II
> ci currently), and I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on which
> one to buy?

     I don't know much about the ethernet cards sold by companies other
than Apple for A/UX machines, but I do know that the Rev. K or earlier
NuBus cards do not work well in a Mac IIci.  I had a problem with a Rev. K
board and was told by the 1-800 cust. support people that the older 
boards have problems with the IIci.  I got a new board, a Rev. M board, and
that helped out.  I have had other problems with my machine though (I believe
related to bad memory), so I don't now for sure how much of my troubles 
were related to the ethernet board, but I do know that my machine stopped
locking up after I got the new board (a major improvement in functionality :-).  
     I believe that at this point, no one should have to worry about the
older Rev. K boards because I think that Apple has been distributing the 
new boards for well over 6 months now.  I just thought I should mention it
in case someone gets a Rev K or earlier board for their Mac IIci.

     For those who are interested, the specific problem that I had when using
the Rev. K board was that at random times (seemingly related to network
usage), my machine would appear to lock up.  It was actually still working
though.  If I moved the mouse, the cursor would move, but it would only do
so every 20 to 30 seconds or so.  I could also type characters and every 20
to 30 seconds, they would apear on the screen.  Basically, it seemed like
the ethernet board was locking up the bus for 20 to 30 seconds at a time, and
then giving the CPU about a half of a second to do something before taking
the bus again.  The only effective way to get out of this situation was to 
reboot the machine.  Sometimes I couldn't even reboot the machine because 
of a hardware problem that wouldn't let the machine boot up to MacOS even.  
I believe now that this is related to bad memory.  Between the Rev. K 
ethernet board, the possible bad memory and software problems with A/UX, 
this machine has pretty much been a lemon.  I suppose that if I am right
about the memory being the cause of my current problems, then the machine
will no longer be a lemon, but right now, I don't trust it very much.

Mike
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