bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) (01/13/90)
This is a call for discussion for a new newsgroup: talk.philosophy.objectivism. This newsgroup would exist for discussion of Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand, and related topics. It would be moderated by me. My purpose as moderator would be to filter out flames and postings that are completely unrelated to Objectivism. I will issue a call for votes on January 27, provided the flames have died down by then. --- Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh } !twwells!bill bill@twwells.com
dschein@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Dinah B. Schein) (01/14/90)
In article <9001132357.AA18208@apee.ogi.edu> mehuld@APEE.OGI.EDU (Mehul Dave) writes: >In article <1990Jan13.140242.14111@twwells.com> >bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) writes > >>This is a call for discussion for a new newsgroup: >>talk.philosophy.objectivism. This newsgroup would exist for >>discussion of Objectivism, the philosophy of Ayn Rand, and >>related topics. It would be moderated by me. >> >>My purpose as moderator would be to filter out flames and >>postings that are completely unrelated to Objectivism. > >I will vote against this newsgroup with the proposed moderator. An >unmoderated newsgroup is acceptable. I do not trust Mr. Wells's >judgement on what constitutes flames and what is related to objectivism >and what is not. >-- >--Mehul Dave-- I have been a reader of sci.philosophy.tech for some time now, but have never posted. The recent proposal to create a moderated newsgroup for Objectivism made me decide to post. I will most emphatically vote against the _moderated_ newsgroup for the same reasons as Mehul Dave. An unmoderated newsgroup is what is needed. Dinah Schein dschein@neon.stanford.edu
bill@twwells.com (T. William Wells) (01/14/90)
In article <1990Jan14.074050.18580@Neon.Stanford.EDU> dschein@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Dinah B. Schein) writes:
: I have been a reader of sci.philosophy.tech for some time now, but
: have never posted. The recent proposal to create a moderated newsgroup for
: Objectivism made me decide to post. I will most emphatically vote against
: the _moderated_ newsgroup for the same reasons as Mehul Dave. An unmoderated
: newsgroup is what is needed.
Followups to my original message were directed to news.groups,
since that is where these kinds of discussions are supposed to be
held. So have followups to this one.
I'll answer objections there, not here.
---
Bill { uunet | novavax | ankh } !twwells!bill
bill@twwells.com
lofdahl@lola.uucp (Corey Lofdahl) (01/16/90)
>>I will vote against this newsgroup with the proposed moderator. An >>unmoderated newsgroup is acceptable. I do not trust Mr. Wells's >>judgement on what constitutes flames and what is related to objectivism >>and what is not. >>--Mehul Dave-- > [I agree] Dinah Schein I'm behind you Mr Wells. I think the newsgroup should be moderated. Really, here's a guy that's going out of his way to provide a forum and these two people "don't trust him". I really hate to see this. If Mr. Dave and Ms. Schein don't like the moderation method, there are plenty of unmoderated newsgroups they can slog through. Just don't turn into a little Caesar Mr. Wells and make me regret my support. ----------------------------------------------corey------------------------ lofdahl@ide.com
jeffc@ncr-fc.FtCollins.NCR.com ( Jeff Cook) (01/17/90)
In article <278@ide.UUCP> lofdahl@lola.uucp (Corey Lofdahl) writes: >>>I will vote against this newsgroup with the proposed moderator. An >>>unmoderated newsgroup is acceptable. I do not trust Mr. Wells's >>>judgement on what constitutes flames and what is related to objectivism >>>and what is not. > >>>--Mehul Dave-- > >> [I agree] Dinah Schein I would vote in favor of an Objectivist newsgroup only if it was unmoderated. I would vote against it otherwise. Trust has nothing to do with it--I don't know Mr. Wells, so I am entirely unable to evaluate his "trustworthiness", one way or the other. However, I think that each person has to judge for themselves the value of the articles posted. Each person's arguments must stand on their own merits, and their value must be determined individually by the people reading them. I would not want to read articles through a filter provided by Mr. Wells. He would be free to give his opinions as to the value of the articles or their relevance to Objectivism, and I would be very much interested in his comments. But I don't want him standing between me and the opinions expressed by others. Mr. Lofdahl wrote: >I'm behind you Mr Wells. I think the newsgroup should be moderated. >Really, here's a guy that's going out of his way to provide a forum >and these two people "don't trust him". I really hate to see this. I would hope that Mr. Wells' efforts to create an Objectivist newsgroup are a result of the potential benefit to his own self- interest that he sees in the outcome. I don't think he would demand moderator status as "payment" for those efforts--he will benefit by creating the newsgroup regardless of his own status within that group. I doubt that he is only willing to create the group if he is the moderator. In the unlikely event that this is his prerequisite for creating the newsgroup, then should the vote for a moderated group fail, I would be willing to push for an unmoderated one. This is not my intention--I would prefer to give my support and "yes" vote to the efforts already being made by Mr. Wells. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeffrey L. Cook jeffc%ncr-fc@ncr-sd.SanDiego.NCR.com NCR Microelectronics uunet!ncrlnk!ncr-sd!ncr-fc!jeffc 2001 Danfield Court Fort Collins, CO 80525 These views are entirely mine, etc... "I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did. I said I didn't know." -- Mark Twain ---------------------------------------------------------------------