mccalpin@perelandra.cms.udel.edu (John D. McCalpin) (04/05/91)
The recent introduction of the HP "Snakes" computer systems underscores a critical characteristic of modern scientific computing, that is that the rules of the game change *very* quickly. It is easy to convince one's self that the most cost-effective computing environment over the long term (which in these days means "a few years") is a heterogeneous distributed network, with low-cost hardware that is updated incrementally. It is vital in this case to use open systems and off-the-shelf technology. Unfortunately, the most commonly available networking option (ethernet) uses a broadcast approach, which is definitely sub-optimal for the communications needs of many "natural" parallel distributed algorithms. In talking to my IBM salescritter about this topic, he suggested using an additional SCSI interface as the networking option. I think that this is a potentially important idea. It uses off-the shelf hardware, and only requires the writing of some (fairly simple?) SCSI device drivers. The system I envision would consist of some moderate number of high-performance cheap workstations (IBM RS/6000-320 or HP/9000-720), lets take 32 as an example. An additional SCSI interface on each unit would provide 7 high-speed, point-to-point interfaces, which could be reconfigured (via a patch panel) to provide a large number of different topologies, including: a line, a 2-D mesh, a 3-D mesh, a ring, etc. I believe that it would be easy to modify a Linda-like software system to operate efficiently on such a system. Simply map particular named tuple-spaces into particular device drivers so that point-to-point communications may be executed directly. A "default" or un-named tuple space could still be handled in a global fashion using the broadcast network. It might be used for things like global accumulations and synchronization messages. A suitably designed code (for example a 3-D spectral element code for fluid dynamics using explicit time marching techniques) should be capable of 1 GFLOPS performance on a network of 32 IBM RS/6000-320's. With current university discounts and third-party memory, such a system (with 32 MB RAM per node) could be assembled for less than $500,000. Apparently, the HP/9000-720 would be capable of slightly higher performance at a similar cost (though I don't know about 3rd-party memory for the HP's). So what is wrong with this idea? Am I misunderstanding what can be done with a SCSI interface or how hard the implementation of a buffered FIFO would be? -- John D. McCalpin mccalpin@perelandra.cms.udel.edu Assistant Professor mccalpin@brahms.udel.edu College of Marine Studies, U. Del. J.MCCALPIN/OMNET -- =========================== MODERATOR ============================== Steve Stevenson {steve,fpst}@hubcap.clemson.edu Department of Computer Science, comp.parallel Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 (803)656-5880.mabell
rkz@scrc.symbolics.com (Randolph K. Zeitvogel) (04/06/91)
[text deleted ...] So what is wrong with this idea? Am I misunderstanding what can be done with a SCSI interface or how hard the implementation of a buffered FIFO would be? You might also want to consider a product called SRAMnet from I forget who at the moment but I could get the info (some outfit in San Diego). SRAMnet is fiber-optic based token ring network that appears to the machine as memory. If the remember the specs correctly, average access time is 150ns. While the not cheapest solution, its off the shelf and in use today. I saw the product at I/ITSC, which is the simulator trade show . Randy Zeitvogel Symbolics MACSYMA division Internet: rkz@symbolics.com -- =========================== MODERATOR ============================== Steve Stevenson {steve,fpst}@hubcap.clemson.edu Department of Computer Science, comp.parallel Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 (803)656-5880.mabell
korfhage@weston.poly.edu (Willard Korfhage) (04/09/91)
At least one person has already made an SCSI network. In 1989 VXM Technologies in Boston told me they had hooked up machines via SCSI ports to form a high-speed network for their Linda system. Also, at the recent Symposium on Experiences with Parallel and Distributed Systems, Marc Pucci described the ION data engine, which is like an external processor that attaches to a workstation via a SCSI port, and this could be used for networking. Finally, in the Macintosh world there are already a variety of SCSI-to-Ethernet adapters available, and one could build a network out of these by running a lot of little point-to-point Ethernets (Ethernets with only two or few stations on them). No reason why these couldn't be adapted for workstation use. Willard Korfhage -- =========================== MODERATOR ============================== Steve Stevenson {steve,fpst}@hubcap.clemson.edu Department of Computer Science, comp.parallel Clemson University, Clemson, SC 29634-1906 (803)656-5880.mabell