[comp.sys.amiga.tech] Sitting Ami on end

u-jmolse%sunset.utah.edu@utah-cs.UUCP (John M. Olsen) (07/18/88)

I think this came up ages ago, but does anyone know whether it will mess
up drive alignment to stand an Amiga on it's end?  This would be a Good
Thing if you want to stick a noisy fan under a desk.  It would take up 
a lot less space, but it may require some custom cables to make everything
reach.  Has anyone got any success or failure stories in doing this?

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dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM (Dale Snell) (07/20/88)

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     In article <5614@utah-cs.UUCP> u-jmolse%sunset.utah.edu.UUCP@utah-cs.UUCP
(John M. Olsen) writes:

|I think this came up ages ago, but does anyone know whether it will mess
|up drive alignment to stand an Amiga on it's end?  This would be a Good
|Thing if you want to stick a noisy fan under a desk.  It would take up 
|a lot less space, but it may require some custom cables to make everything
|reach.  Has anyone got any success or failure stories in doing this?

     No problem at all.  I've run mine that way almost from the day I got it.
I don't have it under the table, but I don't think there'd be much problem
with cable lengths.  You might want to get one of those "tower stands," or
whatever they're called, to keep your Ami above the level of any spilled
water.  One nice thing for me is that this puts the drives just at hand level
when my elbow is resting on the table.  Ergonomics in action!  :-)


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peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (07/20/88)

In article ... u-jmolse%sunset.utah.edu@utah-cs.UUCP (John M. Olsen) writes:
> I think this came up ages ago, but does anyone know whether it will mess
> up drive alignment to stand an Amiga on it's end?

I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
worse reliability. Reliability is none too good anyway, so I gave up the nice
compact set up and went back to having everything spread out right away.

daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (07/21/88)

in article <2307@sugar.uu.net>, peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) says:
> Keywords: disk alignment meatloaf

> I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
> worse reliability. Reliability is none too good anyway, so I gave up the nice
> compact set up and went back to having everything spread out right away.

That sounds like a problem specific to being next to the monitor, rather than
being on the side.  Many monitors put out more than enough energy to occasionally
mess with a nearby floppy disk.  If you're aleady having reliability problems, 
you could probably get just about any monitor to push you over the edge if you
put your floppy right next to it.  
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richard@gryphon.CTS.COM (Richard Sexton) (07/21/88)

In article <2307@sugar.uu.net> peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article ... u-jmolse%sunset.utah.edu@utah-cs.UUCP (John M. Olsen) writes:
>> I think this came up ages ago, but does anyone know whether it will mess
>> up drive alignment to stand an Amiga on it's end?
>
>I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
>worse reliability. Reliability is none too good anyway, so I gave up the nice
>compact set up and went back to having everything spread out right away.

We talking about the Commodore External Floppy drives ? I've had one
(great sample space, huh ?) on its side since I got it at xmas and
hav'nt had any problems.

Must be the air in Tejas or something...


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kasper@csli.STANFORD.EDU (Kasper Osterbye) (07/21/88)

In article <4303@cbmvax.UUCP> daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes:
>in article <2307@sugar.uu.net>, peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) says:
>> Keywords: disk alignment meatloaf
>
>> I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
>> worse reliability. Reliability is none too good anyway, so I gave up the nice
>> compact set up and went back to having everything spread out right away.
>
>That sounds like a problem specific to being next to the monitor, rather than
>being on the side.  Many monitors put out more than enough energy to occasionally
>Dave Haynie  "The 32 Bit Guy"     Commodore-Amiga  "The Crew That Never Rests"

This reminds me of an experience I had in the old c64 days. If I put the
floppy drive on one side of the monitor I had a lot of problems, if I put
it on the other side of the monitor there was none! So maybe try moving it
around?


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peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (07/21/88)

In article <4303@cbmvax.UUCP>, daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) writes:
> in article <2307@sugar.uu.net>, peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) says:
> > I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
> > worse reliability....

> That sounds like a problem specific to being next to the monitor, rather than
> being on the side.

You're probably right: I really had reliability problems when I had my drive
sitting on top of a Tandy 1000, and Tandy is known for flouting FCC require-
ments. This could be more of the same.

The other symptom I had when I put the drive on its side, though, can't really
be explained that way. That was in incredible increase in the volume level of
the disk groinker (:->).
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bobb@tekfdi.TEK.COM (Robert Bales) (07/25/88)

In article <2307@sugar.uu.net> peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:

>I put one of my drives on its side next to the monitor and got significantly
>worse reliability. Reliability is none too good anyway, so I gave up the nice
>compact set up and went back to having everything spread out right away.

Possibly due to magnetic fields from the monitor, instead of the drive's being
on end. Possibly.

   Bob Bales
   Tektronix, Inc.

I help Tektronix make their instruments. They don't help me make my opinions.

robertw@hpcvlx.HP.COM (Robert B. Williams) (08/06/88)

My Amiga 3.5 external drive has been on its side almost since I got it 2
years ago.  No problems.  I have my monitor on a shelf about 6 inches
above the cpu (and 5.25 drive) so it's not real close to the 3.5 drive.

Its not any noisier than when flat, maybe because I put rubber feet on
the side (bottom now) of the drive so it wouldn't slide around.  It's on
it's starboard side. (pushbutton up)

 Robert (I hate long signatures) Williams 
robertw@hp-pcd Corvallis Workstation Operation

mike@shogun.cc.umich.edu (Michael Nowak) (08/15/88)

Did anyone ever come up with a way to extend the keyboard and mouse
cables so you can put the main box on its end on the floor?
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sneakers@heimat.UUCP (Dan "Sneakers" Schein) (08/18/88)

In Message <635@mailrus.cc.umich.edu>, mike@shogun.cc.umich.edu (Michael Nowak) writes:

>Did anyone ever come up with a way to extend the keyboard and mouse
>cables so you can put the main box on its end on the floor?

 The mouse can be extended via a simple 9 pin extension cord. When I had
 to get the hardware ready for DevCon '88 I bought joystick extension cord's
 from Radio Shack. They worked just great!

 As for the keyboard, an AT keyboard cable extension cable should work. If
 my memory serves me correctly, the connectors are the same. (I never tried
 this one though).

> In Real Life:	Michael Nowak


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