[comp.sys.amiga.tech] AMERISTAR ETHERNET Board

zofka@cernvax.UUCP (zofka) (10/14/88)

Hi Folks,

Some questions about Ameristar Ethernet Board...

I have now for one month the Ameristar Ethernet board for my
Amiga 2000 and it works fine. BUT. Currently there is only a client side
implementation of FTP TFTP and NFS and Telnet emulates only VT100.

My questions are:

Does anybody have some technical documentation about these card (I tried
to ask to Ameristar people but no reply for the moment), a documentation
about the low level programmation of the card (libraries, list of low level
calls, how to create a packet or anything so...).

I have some problems (maybe my fault). I cannot make a Path on a NFS
volume during startup-sequence. It works fine by hand but not in the
startup-file. Strange isn't it ?. NFS is not working as fine as expected.

When I try to FTP on a IBM/VM/3090 node, it hangs and the only way to
continue is to CTRL A-A...

If I TELNET on a IBM/VM/3090 TCP/IP node, impossible to get a full page
window (line mode only and without any echo!). This is because I need
a 3270 emulation but without any doc. to how to program the card, I can't
program my own emulator... A solution ???

When will come a upgraded version of the software ? I need a server side
implementation of all these things to use amigas in a network environment
without the need of a Vax or a Sun...

I need also DECNET protocol. I can develop something but no documentation
about anything... Why ?

AMERISTAR, ARE YOU READING THIS ? WHY SO MUCH SECRET ABOUT YOUR CARD ?
IT WORKS WELL BUT THE SOFTWARE IS NOT WELL ENOUGH... WHY DON'T YOU
REPLY TO MY MAIL ?

Milan

zofka@cernvax.UUCP
zofka@cernvm.BITNET
milan on BIX

paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci) (10/19/88)

In article <846@cernvax.UUCP> zofka@cernvax.UUCP () writes:
->Hi Folks,
->
->Some questions about Ameristar Ethernet Board...
->
->I have now for one month the Ameristar Ethernet board for my
->Amiga 2000 and it works fine. BUT. Currently there is only a client side
->implementation of FTP TFTP and NFS and Telnet emulates only VT100.
->
->My questions are:
->
->Does anybody have some technical documentation about these card (I tried
->to ask to Ameristar people but no reply for the moment), a documentation
->about the low level programmation of the card (libraries, list of low level
->calls, how to create a packet or anything so...).

Ameristar also has available a Socket library.  This may be what you want.

->I have some problems (maybe my fault). I cannot make a Path on a NFS
->volume during startup-sequence. It works fine by hand but not in the
->startup-file. Strange isn't it ?. NFS is not working as fine as expected.

I don't understand this at all.  I have no problem setting a an NFS path
during startup and I do nothing special, just the standard stuff.  Furthermore
I have been using NFS close to two years and everything works fine for me.

->When I try to FTP on a IBM/VM/3090 node, it hangs and the only way to
->continue is to CTRL A-A...

Again, I have no problem with FTP.  Perhaps there is something wrong with
your network connection.

->If I TELNET on a IBM/VM/3090 TCP/IP node, impossible to get a full page
->window (line mode only and without any echo!). This is because I need
->a 3270 emulation but without any doc. to how to program the card, I can't
->program my own emulator... A solution ???

To my knowledge, so far TELNET and RLOGIN only support VT100 terminal
emulation.  Lots of times I also wished for Tektronix 4014 emulation,
but as you say, it looks like you will have to write it yourself.  This
should be possible using the Ameristar Socket library.  I certainly
would not expect Ameristar to get in the business of terminal emulation.

->When will come a upgraded version of the software ? I need a server side
->implementation of all these things to use amigas in a network environment
->without the need of a Vax or a Sun...

As I understand, the server side will be coming sometime in the future, but
not soon.

->I need also DECNET protocol. I can develop something but no documentation
->about anything... Why ?

Don't know about DECNET.

->AMERISTAR, ARE YOU READING THIS ? WHY SO MUCH SECRET ABOUT YOUR CARD ?
->IT WORKS WELL BUT THE SOFTWARE IS NOT WELL ENOUGH... WHY DON'T YOU
->REPLY TO MY MAIL ?
->
->Milan
->
->zofka@cernvax.UUCP
->zofka@cernvm.BITNET
->milan on BIX


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jim@b11.UUCP (Jim Levie ) (10/21/88)

Well there is a problem with the AMERISTAR ftp, It will work correctly with
a BSD system, Suns included, but it will hang when talking to an IBM or
microVAX running VMS and the CMU software.  The problem is that the Amiga
version is too picky about the returned status codes. This results in the
remote host thinking that the transaction succeeded and the Amiga thinking
that it failed, volia lockup!.

There are a few other problems with the telnet and rlogin support that
showed up when we upgraded our Suns to 4.0 also.

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belanger@micomvax.UUCP (Robert Belanger) (10/21/88)

	Where can I get information for that ameristar ethernet board

	mail, e-mail, phone, etc...

	Thank you very much
	Robert Belanger

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paolucci@snll-arpagw.UUCP (Sam Paolucci) (10/23/88)

In article <263@b11.UUCP> jim@b11.UUCP (Jim Levie ) writes:
->Well there is a problem with the AMERISTAR ftp, It will work correctly with
->a BSD system, Suns included, but it will hang when talking to an IBM or
->microVAX running VMS and the CMU software.  The problem is that the Amiga
->version is too picky about the returned status codes. This results in the
->remote host thinking that the transaction succeeded and the Amiga thinking
->that it failed, volia lockup!.

One problem that I am aware that causes a lockup between the AMERISTAR board
and VMS systems is if the VMS systems are using trailer packets (if you
don't know what they are talk to your network administrator).  Currently
the AMERISTAR software does not know anything about trailer packets, so
what happens is that during an FTP transaction, the transmission starts
out with normal packets, but then the VMS side switches to trailer packets
for efficiency when transmitting large amounts of data.  This results in a
lockup.  Note that this does not occur with telnet or rlogin because
the packets here are small, and it only occurs occasionally with NFS
depending on the size of the data requested.  The fix is to turn off
the trailer option on the VMS side and everything will then work fine.
By the way, Suns as well as other machines recognize trailer packets,
but don't use them themselves, so you don't have a problem with them.

->There are a few other problems with the telnet and rlogin support that
->showed up when we upgraded our Suns to 4.0 also.

I have been using a Sun 4.0 for quite a while now and the only problem
that I am aware is with telnet.  The problem prevents you to login into
the Sun.

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-> Jim Levie   REMTECH Inc  Huntsville, Al 
-> The opinions expressed above are just that.
-> Ph.    (205) 536-8581               email: uunet!ingr!b11!jim



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robert@trwind.UUCP (Robert W. Snyder) (10/25/88)

Robert Snyder
>
>	Where can I get information for that ameristar ethernet board
>
>	mail, e-mail, phone, etc...
>
>	Thank you very much
>	Robert Belanger
>

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