rsilvers@hawk.ulowell.edu (Robert Silvers) (01/16/89)
Does anyone know if you can modify Sega LCD 3D glasses to work on the
Amiga? The Sega ones are half the price of X-Specs. Same for the Sega
light gun. Thanks.
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"Only Amiga does not make it impossible"rg20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rick Francis Golembiewski) (01/16/89)
Well, I think that interfacing the sega 3d glasses would be possible (and fairly easy if you know a bit about electronics). What the glasses require is an inpt to sync the screen's display with the proper 'eye' (the glasses work by obscuring the R. eye when the immage for the left eye is on screen and obscuring the L. eye when the image for the R. eye is on screen, thus stereo vision), which should require a single bit output (I think you could use the joystick port [I believe that there is a bit output and that it would be fast enough to keep up with the glasses]). The problem that I would see is software, after all X Specs will be the standard (since it is the first for the amiga, and it's not really all that expensive at $99), and so if there is going to be any 3d software (is there any currently?) then it would use the X Specs driver (I assume that it has some kind of a driver). So if you want to use you glasses on anything other then your own programs then you'll have to figure out how to be compatable with X Specs. All in all I'de say that the extra $$$ for X-Specs is worth it because you get the software, and you don't have to hack around with hardware, and from what I've heard the X-Specs glasses themselves are nicely designed (ie a head band and space for regular glasses underneath. As for the light gun, I'm not really sure, but I think that you could hook it up (this time requiring a 1 or 2 bit input [ie the gameport's 2 bunttons), although I only know of 3 games (all from the same company, who also has a light gun) that use one, so you're kind of limited, plus their light gun may have a particular interface. Humm... what I'de suggest is get a logic probe (or an oscilliscope) and try seeing what the sega gun output (I would think just a pulse when you fire), then try to rig up a joystick adaptor cable (unless sega uses atari-type plugs, even if they do BE SURE ITS THE SAME PINOUT! [you can find the Amiga's game port pinout in Introduction to Amiga pg 7-16 and 7-17, I'de guess that you would use somthing similar to the Light Prn Connections...]) Then try to write some software to test and see if it is working (see the RKMs or other [hopefully clearer] reference). I hope the above was of some help... +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Disclaimer: Me? Post That, impossible I never post anything... | | TypetoYouLater(Everyone); --> "functional Good bye".... | | Rick Golembiewski [ Pronunciation is half the Battle, spelling the other] | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU (John Schultz) (01/16/89)
In article <11245@swan.ulowell.edu> rsilvers@hawk.ulowell.edu (Robert Silvers) writes: > Does anyone know if you can modify Sega LCD 3D glasses to work on the >Amiga? The Sega ones are half the price of X-Specs. Same for the Sega >light gun. Thanks. The Sega glasses will work, but you'll need to build a custom interface, then figure out how to drive them. If you just wanted to modify a pair to work with the X-Specs interface, that might work. But if you don't buy a pair of X-Specs, then you won't get the neat software that comes with it. Furthermore, you might be able to buy the glasses without the interface at a reduced price; call Haitex for more info. John Schultz
karl@sugar.uu.net (Karl Lehenbauer) (01/17/89)
In article <11245@swan.ulowell.edu> rsilvers@hawk.ulowell.edu (Robert Silvers) writes: > Does anyone know if you can modify Sega LCD 3D glasses to work on the >Amiga? The Sega ones are half the price of X-Specs. Same for the Sega >light gun. Thanks. I do know that the Sega glasses are electrically compatible with the glasses that come with the X-Specs package. Indeed, the X-Specs interface (at least the one I've been playing with) has two stereo mini plugs for glasses, and I've used both the X-Specs glasses and the Sega ones at the same time. It's nice having two pair so two can watch or play at the same time. The X-Specs glasses are much nicer, more comfortable, and easier to use when developing because you can sort of flip them up when you don't want to look through them. If you wear glasses, the X-Specs glasses are a must because they allow you to wear glasses underneath them, something the Sega ones are incapable of. Note that I'm saying the *glasses* are compatible. You still need the X-Specs Amiga interface box or you must build one like it. Unless you're a hardware hack and it's a personal project for you, I'd suggest buying the Haitex ones. -- -- uunet!sugar!karl | "We've been following your progress with considerable -- karl@sugar.uu.net | interest, not to say contempt." -- Zaphod Beeblebrox IV -- Usenet BBS (713) 438-5018
me128-aw@kepler.Berkeley.EDU (me128 student) (01/17/89)
In article <11245@swan.ulowell.edu> rsilvers@hawk.ulowell.edu (Robert Silvers) writes: > > Does anyone know if you can modify Sega LCD 3D glasses to work on the >Amiga? The Sega ones are half the price of X-Specs. Same for the Sega >light gun. Thanks. Yes, matter of fact the X-Specs ARE modifies Sega glasses. That is largely why they are so expensive. Haitex buys complete sega glasses and throws away their innards and adds their own. I would recommend waiting for Laser Gamesmanship's glasses, whose first production prototype has just been made. Since their made from scratch, they will be much cheaper. Matter of fact, since we're mostly programmers here, I'm sure you can work out a deal to write demo software and get glasses in the process! If anyone's interested, drop me a line and I'll pass the message along. -Vince Lee (Sometimes but not really associated w/ Laser Gamesmanship)
cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU (John Schultz) (01/18/89)
In article <27558@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> me128-aw@kepler.Berkeley.EDU (me128 student) writes: >Yes, matter of fact the X-Specs ARE modifies Sega glasses. That is largely >why they are so expensive. Haitex buys complete sega glasses and throws >away their innards and adds their own. I would recommend waiting for Wrong. X-Specs glasses are actually _Nintendo_, not _Sega_. Furthermore, the interface is custom built, not some "hacked up Sega box". If you look on the upper left face of the glasses, you can see Nintendo (its buffed out). It looks like a scratch, but you can see it if you use a bright light. After the first production run, the X-Specs should be cheaper, as the glasses will be custom as well. Currently the best 3D glasses system on any PC (including Sega/Nintendo) is the X-Specs 3D glasses on any Amiga. John Schultz
rsb584@leah.Albany.Edu (Raymond S Brand) (01/18/89)
In article <60@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU>, cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU (John Schultz) writes: > Furthermore, the interface is custom built, not some "hacked up Sega > box". If you look on the upper left face of the glasses, you can > see Nintendo (its buffed out). It looks like a scratch, but you can > see it if you use a bright light. After the first production run, > > > John Schultz The interface box that come with my X-Specs had nintendo scratched off of it and a label placed over that area. BTW, anyone know when people like me that bought the glasses with the pre- release software (and sent in the registration card) will receive the free upgrade mentioned in the documentation? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raymond S. Brand rsbx@beowulf.uucp 3A Pinehurst Ave. rsb584@leah.albany.edu Albany NY 12203 FidoNet 1:7729/255 (518-489-8968) (518)-482-8798 BBS: (518)-489-8986
cs161agc@sdcc10.ucsd.EDU (John Schultz) (01/21/89)
In article <1444@leah.Albany.Edu> rsb584@leah.Albany.Edu (Raymond S Brand) writes: >The interface box that come with my X-Specs had nintendo scratched off of it >and a label placed over that area. Whhat?? Haitex told me they were custom made. Wait a sec, I'll tear off the label. Hey! You're right! It says Nintendo there too. Huh, looks like their "Japanese connection" is Nintendo... >BTW, anyone know when people like me that bought the glasses with the pre- >release software (and sent in the registration card) will receive the free >upgrade mentioned in the documentation? >Raymond S. Brand rsbx@beowulf.uucp I just sent the final docs and executable for SpaceSpuds to them this week. You might call them to find out about getting the latest stuff @ (214) 241-8030. John Schultz Lost In Space