cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) (02/15/89)
Two questions:
1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same
Menu list?
2. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same
Gadget list?
My guesses: 1: Maybe (80% probability) 2: probably not
Ross Cunniff
Hewlett-Packard Colorado Languages Lab
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cunniff%hpfcrt@hplabs.HP.COMpeter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (02/17/89)
In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM>, cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: > 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same > Menu list? Browser does this. -- Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva `-_-' Hackercorp. ...texbell!sugar!peter, or peter@sugar.uu.net 'U`
shf@well.UUCP (Stuart H. Ferguson) (02/19/89)
+-- peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: | In article <>, cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: | > 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same Menu list? | Browser does this. That doesn't answer the question. ;-) -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@well.UUCP) Action by HAVOC
ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) (02/20/89)
In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM> cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: > 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same > Menu list? > Possible, but problematic. The NextMenu pointers will be going every which way, depending on which Window last had the menu. This is important because, if the user manages to interact with the Menu in one of the other Windows before you've chased down all the NextMenu elements, you could get propelled into a brick wall. Also, if you have CHECKIT MenuItems, then one Window may change the state of the CHECKED flags behind the others' back. > 2. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same > Gadget list? > Again, possible, but problematic. Largely for the same reasons. However, because of the strange nature of the SELECTED bit in the current release, it's much easier to get yourself into trouble. It may *look* highlighted, when in fact you just turned it off. Stu Ferguson would be able to comment more completely on the subject, since he wrote Modeller 3D, which has multiple Windows using the "same" Menus and Gadgets. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Work FOR? I don't work FOR anybody! I'm just having fun." -- The Doctor
shf@well.UUCP (Stuart H. Ferguson) (02/21/89)
+-- ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: | In article <11...M> cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: | > 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same Menu list? | Stu Ferguson would be able to comment more completely on the | subject, since he wrote Modeller 3D, which has multiple Windows using the | "same" Menus and Gadgets. I don't know the answer to the question of legality, but I did it by creating new menus and gadgets for each window at run time. Modeler can have any number of windows of the same class but since the gadgets and menu checkmarks may be in a different state for each window, I give them all their own private structures. I just made a set of statically declared Gadget structures as a prototype and wrote some code to make a copy for each new window. Not too difficult. Menus were more complex, but for that I wrote a generic package for generating new menu structures at run-time from a simple static specification. I sent that code to comp.sources.amiga so it should be generally available sometime. -- Stuart Ferguson (shf@well.UUCP) Action by HAVOC
beh@caen.engin.umich.edu (Bob Hruska) (02/21/89)
From article <10780@well.UUCP>, by ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab): > In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM> cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: >> 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same >> Menu list? >> > Possible, but problematic. The NextMenu pointers will be going > every which way, depending on which Window last had the menu. This is ..... I've got a program in which several windows share the same Menu list, and when I deactivate a window and then reactivate it, its title changes to the same title as the last window I opened. Could this be the cause? I hope so, because otherwise I am hopelessly lost... -- Bob Hruska University of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network (CAEN) INTERNET: beh@caen.engin.umich.edu UUCP: {umix|ucbvax|uunet}!caen.engin.umich.edu!beh
peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) (02/21/89)
In article <10780@well.UUCP>, ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: > In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM> cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: > > 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same > > Menu list? > Possible, but problematic. The NextMenu pointers will be going > every which way, depending on which Window last had the menu. If you have several windows open simultaneously, and treat it all as one input stream, it's no problem. > Also, if you have CHECKIT MenuItems, > then one Window may change the state of the CHECKED flags behind the others' > back. This is, again, not a problem of you design the program to consider it one big shared menu. -- Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva `-_-' Hackercorp. ...texbell!sugar!peter, or peter@sugar.uu.net 'U`
kevin@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Clague) (02/21/89)
In article <3442@sugar.uu.net> peter@sugar.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes: >In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM>, cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: >> 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same >> Menu list? > >Browser does this. I do this also and it seems to work well. This does not mean it is legal. Maybe Jimm has the answer. >-- >Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva `-_-' Hackercorp. Kevin -- UUCP: kevin@uts.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,seismo,oliveb}!amdahl!kevin DDD: 408-737-5481 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 [ Any thoughts or opinions which may or may not have been expressed ] [ herein are my own. They are not necessarily those of my employer. ]
kevin@uts.amdahl.com (Kevin Clague) (02/21/89)
In article <10780@well.UUCP> ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: >In article <11640010@hpfcdc.HP.COM> cunniff@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Ross Cunniff) writes: >> 1. Is it legal for multiple windows to share the same >> Menu list? >> > Possible, but problematic. The NextMenu pointers will be going >every which way, depending on which Window last had the menu. This is >important because, if the user manages to interact with the Menu in one of >the other Windows before you've chased down all the NextMenu elements, you >could get propelled into a brick wall. Also, if you have CHECKIT MenuItems, >then one Window may change the state of the CHECKED flags behind the others' >back. Good point. Could MENUVERIFY help? i.e. I catch the right mouse button and then present the menu when the user pushes the button? Does this not solve the problem since the user can't use the menu until I give it to her? I don't believe there is a similar situation for gadgets.... >Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU Kevin -- UUCP: kevin@uts.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,seismo,oliveb}!amdahl!kevin DDD: 408-737-5481 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 [ Any thoughts or opinions which may or may not have been expressed ] [ herein are my own. They are not necessarily those of my employer. ]