[comp.sys.amiga.tech] Bus Termination

trantow@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Jerry J Trantow) (05/11/89)

Line Eater fodder

Well, my wife has finished her paper and it is finally safe for me to 
reinstall the LUCAS board.  I had my board working for a few months when
it decided to get flakey after warming up.  Now I am ready to try again.
I decided to add the legendary bus termination fix and I have come up 
with a few questions.  The fix that has been suggested uses a 1K,4.7K, and
0.001 uF.  Someone also suggested using a 3.3K instead of the 4.7K, and 
a variable pot was also mentioned.  To clear up the confusion, I dug up
my A1000 schematics.  The expansion board that is shown in the schematics
shows a 220 and 330 ohm bus termination with no capacitor on the data/address
lines and a capacitor on the Clock lines.  

So what is the scoop.  Is the capacitor really needed?  Should I put Rs on
the address, data, and control lines?

By the way, when I first looked at this I thought it would really be a pain.
I had not realized that they make 10 pin SIPs that have the termination 
network (Rs) all set up.

daveh@cbmvax.UUCP (Dave Haynie) (05/12/89)

in article <2487@csd4.milw.wisc.edu>, trantow@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Jerry J Trantow) says:
> Summary: What's the Scoop

> Line Eater fodder

> The fix that has been suggested uses a 1K,4.7K, and 0.001 uF....
> To clear up the confusion, I dug up my A1000 schematics.  The expansion board
> that is shown in the schematics shows a 220 and 330 ohm bus termination ...

> So what is the scoop.  Is the capacitor really needed?  Should I put Rs on
> the address, data, and control lines?

The resistive termination is appropriate for an expansion bus with good, 
strong bus drivers, like the 74F245s recommended for that Los Gatos backplane
design.  What you're talking about is sitting on the Amiga's local bus.  I
doubt that the local bus will be able to drive such termination.  The R-C
termination that's been suggested for LUCAS is probably best.  Not only is
it mild enough to let the rest of the system keep working, but there's a good
chance that it's tuned to the particular interface problems that exist
beween LUCAS and the A1000.  If you know the exact situation you're trying
to supply termination for, you can do an application specific job.  If you're
trying instead to terminate an "anything goes here" thing, like an expansion
bus, you do things a little differently.




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