[net.micro] New Apple 2e and Lisa computers

FISCHER@rutgers.arpa (01/23/83)

From:  Ron <FISCHER@rutgers.arpa>

Were announced.

A very rough rundown:

2e
	All info is base configuration unless noted.  Has a full ASCII
keyboard, also includes 4 cursor keys and open/closed "Apple" keys
(the "Apple" keys are connected to paddle buttons and could therefore
be used as meta prefix keys in a terminal emulator).  Display is same
resolution as the old Apple 2 (i.e. 24 by 40 characters in text mode),
but text modes now have lowercase.  There is a special slot on the
motherboard for an 80 column expansion card, I have heard $50 and $200
quoted as the price for it.  Unit comes with 64k (configured like a
language card).  Maximum expandability is claimed to be 128k, but no
word on how it's done.  Otherwise it is an Apple 2, almost completely
compatible with the older machine.  There was a unit at a local store
that a friend tried out.  Apparently all of the regular programs
worked.  The only one that didn't was, of course, the one we were sent
to check out: Terrapin Logo.  Oh well, the Apple 2e is a fabulous
improvement on the Apple 2.  Nearly all of the deficiencies have been
repaired.  The price of the new Apple: $1350.

Lisa
	Covered in recent Infoworld.  It is what we all heard, but the
final configuration is a little better pricewise.  68000 processor,
bitmap display (Apparently not 1000k by 800 resolution), mouse, 1.2
meg floppy storage, 5 meg hard disk.  I heard this second hand and
found the price/configuration very very competitive at $9995.  Could
someone who has the Infoworld issue very handy please summarize.  If
no one else gets a chance I'll eventually find a copy of the
magazine....

No word on the home version of the Lisa yet (MacIntosh).  I hope it's
a dynabook equivalent in function if not size.

(ron)
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